[DrCaleb]

xerxes xerxes:

$1:

I do not know much about the shooter but what I am seeing of the victims and survivors indicates that they're mostly conservatives.

Political affiliation is irrelevant. Horrors like this cut across all political persuasions in the US.

Political affiliation is very important to some. They no longer identify people as what they do for a living, but which politics you stand behind. You aren't an 'autoworker' or 'carpenter', you are a Republican or Democrat, Conservative or Liberal. The socialization of politics is upon us.

So to narrow on who the victims are, they narrow on what the gunman might have been thinking because the only logical conclusion is that the gunman is the opposite of the victims. It's important to them that the gunman wasn't 'their guy'.

[raydan]

The Republicans are really trying to distance themselves from this one... but I guess that both sides are doing this.

PTSD would be my bet.

[BartSimpson]

raydan raydan:

The Republicans are really trying to distance themselves from this one... but I guess that both sides are doing this.

PTSD would be my bet.

Why do Republicans need to distance ourselves from this when the majority of the victims...if not all of them...are Republican and conservative?

[BartSimpson]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

It's important to them that the gunman wasn't 'their guy'.

In this case the gunman is undeniably one of my guys. Can't even begin to tell you how sick I am over this.

[DrCaleb]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

It's important to them that the gunman wasn't 'their guy'.

In this case the gunman is undeniably one of my guys. Can't even begin to tell you how sick I am over this.

He might have been a Marine, but he also appears to have issues. Unless you just got released from a psychiatrists care, he's not 'your guy'. His political leanings, and the leanings of his victims are irrelevant to the act he committed.

He just wanted to kill. He didn't ask for party memberships beforehand.

[raydan]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

raydan raydan:

The Republicans are really trying to distance themselves from this one... but I guess that both sides are doing this.

PTSD would be my bet.

Why do Republicans need to distance ourselves from this when the majority of the victims...if not all of them...are Republican and conservative?

Does that automatically mean that the shooter is a Democrat?

[BartSimpson]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

It's important to them that the gunman wasn't 'their guy'.

In this case the gunman is undeniably one of my guys. Can't even begin to tell you how sick I am over this.

He might have been a Marine, but he also appears to have issues. Unless you just got released from a psychiatrists care, he's not 'your guy'. His political leanings, and the leanings of his victims are irrelevant to the act he committed.

He just wanted to kill. He didn't ask for party memberships beforehand.

He is a Marine. That makes him my guy regardless of any political party.

[Thanos]

The lazy side of the media was going on about "the police were warned about him" in order to spread the blame around. Which is the usual foolish lawsuit-bait because until he threatens or harms someone the cops can't do anything at all about him, not in a country where the right of an obvious nut to have a firearm is more sacred than the right to life of those he slaughtered.

[BartSimpson]

Thanos Thanos:

The lazy side of the media was going on about "the police were warned about him" in order to spread the blame around. Which is the usual foolish lawsuit-bait because until he threatens or harms someone the cops can't do anything at all about him, not in a country where the right of an obvious nut to have a firearm is more sacred than the right to life of those he slaughtered.

Right now we know precious little about this guy and given the way the FBI scrubs the internet of any evidence of a terrorists existence these days I suspect precious little is all we'll ever know.

[DrCaleb]

stratos stratos:

Well lets see here, you scorn those who would send thoughts and prayers. A sign of caring and offer of comfort. And in return DEMAND that something be done. What exactly that viable something is you do not state.

$1:

The mother of the 27-year-old man killed in the latest attack, Telemachus "Tel" Orfanos, said her son survived Vegas only to die inside Borderline, less than 10 minutes from his home.

"Here are my words: I want gun control," said Susan Schmidt-Orfanos, her voice shaking with grief and rage. "I don't want prayers. I don't want thoughts."

Mother's cry after son survived one mass shooting to die in another: Gun control, not prayers

[Strutz]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

xerxes xerxes:

$1:

I do not know much about the shooter but what I am seeing of the victims and survivors indicates that they're mostly conservatives.

Political affiliation is irrelevant. Horrors like this cut across all political persuasions in the US.

Political affiliation is very important to some. They no longer identify people as what they do for a living, but which politics you stand behind. You aren't an 'autoworker' or 'carpenter', you are a Republican or Democrat, Conservative or Liberal. The socialization of politics is upon us.

So to narrow on who the victims are, they narrow on what the gunman might have been thinking because the only logical conclusion is that the gunman is the opposite of the victims. It's important to them that the gunman wasn't 'their guy'.

That is so ridiculous. I can't imagine looking at the world this way.

[Freakinoldguy]

raydan raydan:

The Republicans are really trying to distance themselves from this one... but I guess that both sides are doing this.

PTSD would be my bet.

If people have PTSD and become violent they were likely violent before they got it.

$1:

Most military personnel who experience horrendous traumatic events during combat do not come home and kill civilians. In fact, their more likely reaction is to withdraw, become anxious, and become fearful of their surroundings. They are far more likely to become avoidant than lash out at others.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... t-behavior

Remember the kid from the 4th Battalion PPCLI in Edmonton?. He got released after a stint in Astan and when he didn't get what he wanted from DVA drove his SUV through the front doors of the admin building and claimed PTSD made him do it. They did a significant number of tests on him and discovered that his problem wasn't that the had PTSD, which he had but, that he was just another self entitled asshole who didn't get what he wanted.

So, if all the interviews they're showing on TV are to be believed Long was a very damaged individual before he even got near the military and had the people who had violent interactions with him before he signed up and even after he was released turned him into authorities like they should have this tragedy might have been averted.

Unfortunately people seem to think that anti social or violent behaviour can be rehabilitated by having the individual in question join the military. Unfortunately that doesn't work anymore. This is the 21st century and even the military has been pussified WRT to discipline to the extent that when you sign up some potential sociopath, he'll likely walk out the door at the end of his enlistment just as fucked up as he went in with the only difference being he'll now have much better weapons discipline.

You can ban guns, you can blame Trump, you can blame the kids, you can blame the kids parents and you can even blame the military. But the fact remains that nothing is going to change till we and the authorities start dealing with the mental health issues these people openly display and for the record mentally disturbed people shouldn't have access to guns.

[martin14]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

"Here are my words: I want gun control," said Susan Schmidt-Orfanos, her voice shaking with grief and rage. "I don't want prayers. I don't want thoughts."

[/quote]

Bodies aren't even cold, and mommy wants 'gun control'.

Jesus, can't miss 5 minutes to take them political points.

[Thanos]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

So, if all the interviews they're showing on TV are to be believed Long was a very damaged individual before he even got near the military and had the people who had violent interactions with him before he signed up and even after he was released turned him into authorities like they should have this tragedy might have been averted.

On that note, stopping them when their demented behaviour becomes obvious enough to notice, his former track teacher said he assaulted her back in high school. But, according to at least one side of the Senate Judiciary Committee, all women who say these things are just devious lying whores out to damage a good young man's future so why listen to any of them?

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2018/11 ... h-assault/

Bet she voted for the Obamunist and Hitlery KKKlinton too, the lying slut whore bitch.

[Freakinoldguy]

Thanos Thanos:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

So, if all the interviews they're showing on TV are to be believed Long was a very damaged individual before he even got near the military and had the people who had violent interactions with him before he signed up and even after he was released turned him into authorities like they should have this tragedy might have been averted.

On that note, stopping them when their demented behaviour becomes obvious enough to notice, his former track teacher said he assaulted her back in high school. But, according to at least one side of the Senate Judiciary Committee, all women who say these things are just devious lying whores out to damage a good young man's future so why listen to any of them?

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2018/11 ... h-assault/

Bet she voted for the Obamunist and Hitlery KKKlinton too, the lying slut whore bitch.

My guess is that since it was a "track practice" at a high school and not a private party 30 years ago attended by a woman who couldn't even remember where it occurred or who was there, that there were sufficient witnesses to the attack to make her accusation much more than just an accusation.