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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:10 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: $1: “What did your Prophet Mohammed ever do to save mankind?” Seems to me the question deserved an answer and not a riot.
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:27 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: BartSimpson BartSimpson: $1: “What did your Prophet Mohammed ever do to save mankind?” Seems to me the question deserved an answer and not a riot. And possibly her inevitable death.
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:43 pm
Fighter Fighter: U diverted the topic. Blacks and Whites have more hatred towards each other than Muslims and Christians have anywhere in world. Really? I diverted from the topic of Asia Bibi by bringing the conversation back to the topic of Asia Bibi, did I? Don't ever change Fighter. You crack me up.
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Sunnyways
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:35 pm
Strutz Strutz: I'm surprised she was acquitted, especially because she's a woman and women are generally treated like garbage in Muslim countries.
South Asians don’t need to be Muslims to be misogynistic. Sex ratios in Sikh and Hindu families are actually lower than those of Muslims.
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newz
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:10 pm
Fighter Fighter: Hopefully, she does not make it the hell out of there. And there you have it folks! Right from the mouth of our resident "peaceful muslim". Is there more proof required to denounce this death cult?
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:45 am
newz newz: Fighter Fighter: Hopefully, she does not make it the hell out of there. And there you have it folks! Right from the mouth of our resident "peaceful muslim". Is there more proof required to denounce this death cult? Typical. Selectively quoting to make your point. Why not quote the rest of his thought? "She is PAKISTANI citizen and Green flag should not allow anyone to play politics over internal issue of it." You won't quote the part about how Pakistan should respect the free speech of it's citizens, because it doesn't fit your 'Muzzies are bad' prejudice.
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:27 am
Fighter Fighter: GreenTiger GreenTiger: There are a number of us on this forum that have made a number of comments about Mohammed that one might argue are less than respectful, in fact, a number of them are a bit on the insulting side. Under their blasphemy laws, we would be a hell of a lot of trouble. If any of these goon slime eating carpet kissing cockroach sword swallowers get insulted at our use of free speech to DISCUSS Muhammed that is really unfortunate. You won't land in trouble if you discuss about our religion, country or Prophet....However, if you insult then you sure are gonna land in trouble. Only she didn't start it. She was trying to drink water in peace, or is it custom to deny people the necessities of life? Seems to me like the bitch in the village should have been locked up for disturbing the peace, Ms. Bibi- pissed that she's being hounded by a pack fanatical bitches lashed out, as any angry and frustrated human would do. To be honest seeing some of the shit being done in the name of Allah, Muhammad, God, Jesus, Gensih or whatever other imaginary sky deity reinforces my contempt for religion. The message of the Bible, Torah, Quran and every other so-called holy text is "treat each other with respect and don't be a dick" People need to actually adhering to that message. Same will happen to you if you're in India and you disrespect Hindus and their religion. So that makes it ok?Forget about Pakistan or India.....In your own country, USA, If you're white guy, go and try to say "nigga" to any random black guy and see what happens. Nothing will happen. Again, It is word used by both black AND white to address friends in the inner cityCommon sense. Saying something wrong at wrong time and at wrong place can cost you. Common sense, again. Thats not how fair and just societies work. Freedom of speech is just that. Free speech. And before you tell me that she blasphemed, didn't the village bitch do the same thing by calling her a non-believer?Sunnyways Sunnyways: This is a time for quiet diplomacy until (hopefully) Bibi and her family are out.
Full credit to her lawyer, Saiful Malook, who risked his life and career to defend a citizen's rights. One weird thing about Pakistan is the judiciary. It still contains many brilliant and brave individuals despite the rising tide of fanaticism beyond the courts. Pakistanis, despite being conservative in some areas, are quite liberal in other departments. Just not respecting the judiciary or other peoples rights We have private media who shouts at government and military 24/7 and not to mention women folks enjoy quite liberty here. I discussed that on this forum in the past as well. Women obstinately enjoy liberty there. That's weird that he decided to run. He was not threatened at all, was he? Not a single person lost his life in these violent protests. In these protests in particular or ever?Do you guys remember London Riots in 2011 The 2011 England riots, more widely known as the London Riots were a series of riots between the 6th of August and 11 August 2011, when thousands of people rioted in cities and towns across England, saw looting, arson, and mass deployment of police, and resulted in the deaths of five people. The riots over the time British Cops shot Mark Duggan, a male of British/West Indies decent? what of it?------------ Latest update on topic......Gov't is playing clever and looks like has fooled the protestors TLP protests: Over 5,000 booked in govt crackdown a day after dealhttps://tribune.com.pk/story/1840198/1-5000-booked-govt-crackdown-day-deal/
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:32 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson: “What did your Prophet Mohammed ever do to save mankind?”
Seems to me the question deserved an answer and not a riot. Nope. Riot needed, right in their so called Parliament. That's maturity for you. Politicians BRAWL over Christian woman saved from death row for blasphemy in Pakistan as her lawyer revealed he was 'forced' to flee to Europe by the UN to save his life Footage shows rival politicians coming to blows in Pakistan's National Assembly Brawl broke out as they discussed Asia Bibi case in the wake of her acquittal The Christian's death sentence was overturned last week, infuriating hardliners It comes as Bibi's lawyer claimed the UN and EU had made him leave the country https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... istan.html
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:40 pm
Fighter Fighter: U diverted the topic.  Fighter, Fighter, Fighter... Get thee to an Urdu to English dictionary stat. Look up the word "topic." In this case the "topic" of this thread has a title. It's this: " Asia Bibi: Deal to end Pakistan protests over blasphemy case" You can't divert a topic on Asia Bibi by talking about Asia Bibi. As to this: $1: Blacks and Whites have more hatred towards each other than Muslims and Christians have anywhere in world.  And that's all the claim is worth.
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newz
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:04 pm
DrCaleb DrCaleb: newz newz: Fighter Fighter: Hopefully, she does not make it the hell out of there. And there you have it folks! Right from the mouth of our resident "peaceful muslim". Is there more proof required to denounce this death cult? Typical. Selectively quoting to make your point. Why not quote the rest of his thought? He has made it quite clear on this forum that if the court decides to hang her, he is ok with that. Don't know about you, but as a person living on this earth, that makes my skin crawl. As far as the rest of his thought "green flags shall not make politics of internal matters or whatever it was. So what? All islamic theocracies are shitholes and always will be. Until they throw the yoke of mohamed off them, they will be doomed to wallow in their zealotry with continued death and suffering. I'd be willing to bet that if you've heard the term "hadith" you probably haven't read many of them. Muslims are not inherently evil but mohamed was.
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Sunnyways
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:36 am
Enough complaining. Is there a petition to sign to demand action on bringing her and her family to Canada?
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:03 am
newz newz: DrCaleb DrCaleb: newz newz: And there you have it folks! Right from the mouth of our resident "peaceful muslim". Is there more proof required to denounce this death cult? Typical. Selectively quoting to make your point. Why not quote the rest of his thought? He has made it quite clear on this forum that if the court decides to hang her, he is ok with that. Don't know about you, but as a person living on this earth, that makes my skin crawl. Where? I re-read his posts here, he says nothing of the sort. On the contrary, he writes that people should be free to express their opinion, but if you seek to piss people off don't be surprised if there are consequences. Seems pretty reasonable to me. newz newz: As far as the rest of his thought "green flags shall not make politics of internal matters or whatever it was. So what?
All islamic theocracies are shitholes and always will be. Until they throw the yoke of mohamed off them, they will be doomed to wallow in their zealotry with continued death and suffering.
I'd be willing to bet that if you've heard the term "hadith" you probably haven't read many of them. Muslims are not inherently evil but mohamed was. So why do you hold people today who loosely follow the words of a book, to the standards of a man who died so long ago? Which one of you is the zealot?
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:47 am
Sunnyways Sunnyways: Enough complaining. Is there a petition to sign to demand action on bringing her and her family to Canada? There was an article at the CBC the other day talking about how they believed the Government was working behind the scenes to find a way to do that. It wouldn't surprise me if the Liberals did do that. Working with their pet media they could make it seem a victory to both sides. A bipartisan positive going into the next election. Even for my side they could say the equivalent to us of "See. We're the free speech guys. We never really wanted blasphemy laws ourselves. (psst...get behind the curtain Iqra Khalid.)"
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Sunnyways
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:48 pm
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog: Sunnyways Sunnyways: Enough complaining. Is there a petition to sign to demand action on bringing her and her family to Canada? There was an article at the CBC the other day talking about how they believed the Government was working behind the scenes to find a way to do that. It wouldn't surprise me if the Liberals did do that. Working with their pet media they could make it seem a victory to both sides. A bipartisan positive going into the next election. Even for my side they could say the equivalent to us of "See. We're the free speech guys. We never really wanted blasphemy laws ourselves. (psst...get behind the curtain Iqra Khalid.)" I don’t care how they look as long as an offer is made to get her out. That’s what matters, yes?
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Fighter
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:33 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: “What did your Prophet Mohammed ever do to save mankind?”
Seems to me the question deserved an answer and not a riot. N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog: Fighter Fighter: U diverted the topic. Blacks and Whites have more hatred towards each other than Muslims and Christians have anywhere in world. Really? I diverted from the topic of Asia Bibi by bringing the conversation back to the topic of Asia Bibi, did I? Don't ever change Fighter. You crack me up. DrCaleb DrCaleb: newz newz: Fighter Fighter: Hopefully, she does not make it the hell out of there. And there you have it folks! Right from the mouth of our resident "peaceful muslim". Is there more proof required to denounce this death cult? Typical. Selectively quoting to make your point. Why not quote the rest of his thought? "She is PAKISTANI citizen and Green flag should not allow anyone to play politics over internal issue of it." You won't quote the part about how Pakistan should respect the free speech of it's citizens, because it doesn't fit your 'Muzzies are bad' prejudice. llama66 llama66: Fighter Fighter: GreenTiger GreenTiger: There are a number of us on this forum that have made a number of comments about Mohammed that one might argue are less than respectful, in fact, a number of them are a bit on the insulting side. Under their blasphemy laws, we would be a hell of a lot of trouble. If any of these goon slime eating carpet kissing cockroach sword swallowers get insulted at our use of free speech to DISCUSS Muhammed that is really unfortunate. You won't land in trouble if you discuss about our religion, country or Prophet....However, if you insult then you sure are gonna land in trouble. Only she didn't start it. She was trying to drink water in peace, or is it custom to deny people the necessities of life? Seems to me like the bitch in the village should have been locked up for disturbing the peace, Ms. Bibi- pissed that she's being hounded by a pack fanatical bitches lashed out, as any angry and frustrated human would do. To be honest seeing some of the shit being done in the name of Allah, Muhammad, God, Jesus, Gensih or whatever other imaginary sky deity reinforces my contempt for religion. The message of the Bible, Torah, Quran and every other so-called holy text is "treat each other with respect and don't be a dick" People need to actually adhering to that message. Same will happen to you if you're in India and you disrespect Hindus and their religion. So that makes it ok?Forget about Pakistan or India.....In your own country, USA, If you're white guy, go and try to say "nigga" to any random black guy and see what happens. Nothing will happen. Again, It is word used by both black AND white to address friends in the inner cityCommon sense. Saying something wrong at wrong time and at wrong place can cost you. Common sense, again. Thats not how fair and just societies work. Freedom of speech is just that. Free speech. And before you tell me that she blasphemed, didn't the village bitch do the same thing by calling her a non-believer?Sunnyways Sunnyways: This is a time for quiet diplomacy until (hopefully) Bibi and her family are out.
Full credit to her lawyer, Saiful Malook, who risked his life and career to defend a citizen's rights. One weird thing about Pakistan is the judiciary. It still contains many brilliant and brave individuals despite the rising tide of fanaticism beyond the courts. Pakistanis, despite being conservative in some areas, are quite liberal in other departments. Just not respecting the judiciary or other peoples rights We have private media who shouts at government and military 24/7 and not to mention women folks enjoy quite liberty here. I discussed that on this forum in the past as well. Women obstinately enjoy liberty there. That's weird that he decided to run. He was not threatened at all, was he? Not a single person lost his life in these violent protests. In these protests in particular or ever?Do you guys remember London Riots in 2011 The 2011 England riots, more widely known as the London Riots were a series of riots between the 6th of August and 11 August 2011, when thousands of people rioted in cities and towns across England, saw looting, arson, and mass deployment of police, and resulted in the deaths of five people. The riots over the time British Cops shot Mark Duggan, a male of British/West Indies decent? what of it?------------ Latest update on topic......Gov't is playing clever and looks like has fooled the protestors TLP protests: Over 5,000 booked in govt crackdown a day after dealhttps://tribune.com.pk/story/1840198/1-5000-booked-govt-crackdown-day-deal/N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog: Fighter Fighter: U diverted the topic.  Fighter, Fighter, Fighter... Get thee to an Urdu to English dictionary stat. Look up the word "topic." In this case the "topic" of this thread has a title. It's this: " Asia Bibi: Deal to end Pakistan protests over blasphemy case" You can't divert a topic on Asia Bibi by talking about Asia Bibi. As to this: $1: Blacks and Whites have more hatred towards each other than Muslims and Christians have anywhere in world.  And that's all the claim is worth. I just CANT stop laughing over this... Asia Bibi lawyer says EU, UN made him leave 'against my wishes' The Hague: A Pakistani lawyer who saved Asia Bibi, convicted of blasphemy from death row, said Monday that the UN and EU made him leave the country "against my wishes" because his life was at risk. Saif-ul-Malook, who has fled to the Netherlands, said he contacted a United Nations official in Islamabad after violence erupted following the Supreme Court´s acquittal of Asia Bibi on Wednesday. "And then they (the UN) and the European nation ambassadors in Islamabad, they kept me for three days and then put me on a plane against my wishes," the lawyer told a press conference in The Hague. "I pressed them that I would not leave the country unless I get Asia out of the prison... I am not happy to be here without her but, but everybody said that you are the prime target at the moment and the whole world is taking care of Asia Bibi. "They were of the view that I was the prime target to be killed, and that my life was in imminent danger. For three days they did not let me open the door, one day I called the French ambassador and said I do not want to be here." The lawyer had previously told AFP before his departure on Saturday that he was leaving because "in the current scenario, it´s not possible for me to live in Pakistan". Saif-ul-Malook arrived in The Hague at the weekend after a short stopover in Rome. Asia Bibi spent nearly a decade on death row after being accused of blasphemy after a dispute with fellow villagers. https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/390034-asia-bibi-lawyer-says-eu-un-made-him-leave-against-my-wishesI told you guys...As far as I read, lawyer was not threatened at all by any religious party or person. Pakistan may look weak from outside and may be rightly so because we have some negligence in some routines but we are fully functional state with all its organs intact and vibrant. Law will take its own course hopefully and Khan will handle it. People here are not at all liking these protestors who went violent. Note: I am about to go busy so my presence will on this forum be minimized. I hardly can answer each and every comment now. Not much time I have now after getting done with my job. I may appear on Sunday, a day in a week to write...However will be keeping an overwatch on you guys and reading your comments. ![Drink up [B-o]](./images/smilies/drinkup.gif)
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