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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:28 am
 


BeaverFever BeaverFever:
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Bullshit. The real reason they pulled it was because they couldn't fit all the illegal (sorry, irregular) immigrants Trudeau invited to our country on the walkway.


The ad may have been in bad taste but it doesn't deflect the fact that our Gov't has ignored it's obligations on it's safe third country agreement with the US and allowed thousands of illegal migrants to jump the queue and eat up spots and resources that legal immigrants should and would have gotten.



WRONG WRONG WRONG

Safe Third Country isn’t an “obligation” on the country receiving the immigrants ie Canada in this case it’s a RIGHT. It’s only an obligation on the country they’re leaving ie USA in this case. Do you really think USA is like “hey no fair give us back out immigrants, you have an obligation!” Think, man.

Second falsehood is your bogus claim that refugees take spots from other immigrants which has been pointed out repeatedly to be wrong. Refugees claimants are handled separate system and to not take up spots in the regular immigration system. This has been said multiple times already. Read, man.


Speaking of reading. Have you ever read the agreement?

$1:
The Safe Third Country Agreement between Canada and the United States (U.S.) is part of the U.S.–Canada Smart Border Action Plan.

Under the Agreement, refugee claimants are required to request refugee protection in the first safe country they arrive in, unless they qualify for an exception to the Agreement.

The Agreement helps both governments better manage access to the refugee system in each country for people crossing the Canada–U.S. land border. The two countries signed the Agreement on December 5, 2002, and it came into effect on December 29, 2004.

To date, the U.S. is the only country that is designated as a safe third country by Canada under the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act.

The Agreement does not apply to U.S. citizens or habitual residents of the U.S. who are not citizens of any country (“stateless persons”).

Where the Agreement is in effect
The Safe Third Country Agreement applies only to refugee claimants who are seeking entry to Canada from the U.S.:

at Canada-U.S. land border crossings
by train or
at airports, only if the person seeking refugee protection in Canada has been refused refugee status in the U.S. and is in transit through Canada after being deported from the U.S.
Exceptions to the Agreement
Exceptions to the Agreement consider the importance of family unity, the best interests of children and the public interest.

There are four types of exceptions:

Family member exceptions
Unaccompanied minors exception
Document holder exceptions
Public interest exceptions
Even if they qualify for one of these exceptions, refugee claimants must still meet all other eligibility criteria of Canada’s immigration legislation. For example, if a person seeking refugee protection has been found inadmissible in Canada on the grounds of security, for violating human or international rights, or for serious criminality, that person will not be eligible to make a refugee claim.

Family member exceptions
Refugee claimants may qualify under this category of exceptions if they have a family member who:

is a Canadian citizen
is a permanent resident of Canada
is a protected person under Canadian immigration legislation
has made a claim for refugee status in Canada that has been accepted by the Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada (IRB)
has had his or her removal order stayed on humanitarian and compassionate grounds
holds a valid Canadian work permit
holds a valid Canadian study permit, or
is over 18 years old and has a claim for refugee protection that has been referred to the IRB for determination. (This claim must not have been withdrawn by the family member, declared abandoned or rejected by the IRB or found ineligible for referral to the IRB.)
Unaccompanied minors exception
Refugee claimants may qualify under this category of exceptions if they are minors (under the age of 18) who:

are not accompanied by their mother, father or legal guardian
have neither a spouse nor a common-law partner, and
do not have a mother, a father or a legal guardian in Canada or the United States.
Document holder exceptions
Refugee claimants may qualify under this category of exceptions if they:

hold a valid Canadian visa (other than a transit visa)
hold a valid work permit
hold a valid study permit
hold a travel document (for permanent residents or refugees) or other valid admission document issued by Canada, or
are not required (exempt) to get a temporary resident visa to enter Canada but require a U.S.–issued visa to enter the U.S.
Public interest exceptions
Refugee claimants may qualify under this category of exceptions if:

they have been charged with or convicted of an offence that could subject them to the death penalty in the U.S. or in a third country. However, a refugee claimant is ineligible if he or she has been found inadmissible in Canada on the grounds of security, for violating human or international rights, or for serious criminality, or if the Minister finds the person to be a danger to the public.
Making a refugee claim under the Safe Third Country Agreement
For detailed information on making a refugee claim for protection in Canada at the Canada–U.S. border, please refer to the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA).


So we're technically breaking our own laws because it's our right? Fair enough I guess. But are we just making sure these poor "irregulars" aren't persecuted because being deported from a country you entered illegally must mean they somehow meet the Canadian gov'ts requirement for an exception otherwise they'd all be being sent back as soon as they crossed.


Although I will admit I spoke incorrectly about "irregulars" taking resources and spots from legal immigrants because they don't but, apparently in another Liberal twist of fate it would appear that they only take resources from our military.

Now if we could only find out what happened to the 50K Syrians that Sunnydaze and his party seems to have lost everything in the world of immigration would be A-Okay. [B-o]


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If you're a Canadian Citizen born in Canada PM Selfie doesn't give a flying <censored> about you and that's the truth.


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Oh, I get it!
They should have depicted a person concealed head-to-toe in a black white bed sheet!


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:00 pm
 


BeaverFever BeaverFever:
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
Bullshit. The real reason they pulled it was because they couldn't fit all the illegal (sorry, irregular) immigrants Trudeau invited to our country on the walkway.


The ad may have been in bad taste but it doesn't deflect the fact that our Gov't has ignored it's obligations on it's safe third country agreement with the US and allowed thousands of illegal migrants to jump the queue and eat up spots and resources that legal immigrants should and would have gotten.



your bogus claim that refugees take spots from other immigrants which has been pointed out repeatedly to be wrong.


Your bogus logic stands on its head. Logistically it is impossible to split a department's resources and claim the legal immigration applications are being handled as speedily as before. Of course, in a liberal utopia, turds are polished by repeating the mantra over and over.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:08 am
 


newz newz:
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
Bullshit. The real reason they pulled it was because they couldn't fit all the illegal (sorry, irregular) immigrants Trudeau invited to our country on the walkway.


The ad may have been in bad taste but it doesn't deflect the fact that our Gov't has ignored it's obligations on it's safe third country agreement with the US and allowed thousands of illegal migrants to jump the queue and eat up spots and resources that legal immigrants should and would have gotten.



your bogus claim that refugees take spots from other immigrants which has been pointed out repeatedly to be wrong.


Your bogus logic stands on its head. Logistically it is impossible to split a department's resources and claim the legal immigration applications are being handled as speedily as before. Of course, in a liberal utopia, turds are polished by repeating the mantra over and over.


That's because you have trouble with the concept that Immigration is not Asylum, and they are handled differently. Just like in the link I gave earlier.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:16 am
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
That's because you have trouble with the concept that Immigration is not Asylum, and they are handled differently. Just like in the link I gave earlier.
How they are handled differently does not matter. Keep telling folks about shit that does not matter.

Canadians do not need more people.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:18 am
 


CharlesAnthony CharlesAnthony:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
That's because you have trouble with the concept that Immigration is not Asylum, and they are handled differently. Just like in the link I gave earlier.
How they are handled differently does not matter. Keep telling folks about shit that does not matter.

Canada do not need more people.

ftfy.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:26 am
 


CharlesAnthony CharlesAnthony:
[Canada does] not need more people.


Since our birth rate is falling, how else do you expect the infrastructure you see around you to be maintained or improved? Western society isn't free. It needs taxes, and that idiotic notion of growth to fund it.


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