[BartSimpson]

Thanos Thanos:

You've been pretty harsh lately yourself, and you haven't bothered to hide anymore how much you'd really like to bring the hammer down hard on pretty much anyone who you've decided is your enemy. If you don't like that kind of talk being aimed back at you then quit firing off these sorts of shots at other people.

I'm not the one who's going after imaginary characters from a book.

[Thanos]

No, but your allies on the righteous right who like burning and banning said book, along with anything else that ever challenges their godly certitude, certainly are. That's what theocrats do, get rid of anything (and anyone too eventually) that promote any kind of dissent or unwanted thinking.

That it happens on a regular basis in a country where it's Founders wrote the rules so this very exact thing could never happen is nothing less than a tragedy. And an obscenity too, given how often the "righteous" are discovered to be perverts of the worst order themselves, and generally more disgusting than that which they rail against in the name of their fantasy religion.

[BartSimpson]

Thanos Thanos:

No, but your allies on the righteous right who like burning and banning said book, along with anything else that ever challenges their godly certitude, certainly are. That's what theocrats do, get rid of anything (and anyone too eventually) that promote any kind of dissent or unwanted thinking.

That it happens on a regular basis in a country where it's Founders wrote the rules so this very exact thing could never happen is nothing less than a tragedy. And an obscenity too, given how often the "righteous" are discovered to be perverts of the worst order themselves, and generally more disgusting than that which they rail against in the name of their fantasy religion.

The book was banned from being used for school children. There were parents who objected to the book being taught to 14 year old kids because of the graphic rape scenes and other perverse behaviors portrayed in the book.

Christian parents also objected to the book because it represented Christians the way you see them.

I don't object to the book being read by adults and no one has banned it for adults.

However, I do object to assholes using a work of fiction to justify their hatred of Christians.

Makes me wonder how you'd react to The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and Jud Süß.

[Thanos]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Makes me wonder how you'd react to The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and Jud Süß.

As historical artifacts they're invaluable in teaching what depths can be reached when superstition, stupidity, nihilism, and perversity are combined together and put on film or on paper. In the hands of true believers they're just another propaganda weapon for corralling more fools to the cause. That doesn't justify banning them though. Freedom means having to put up with icky things you don't like because your not liking them isn't a justifiable reason to ban them.

If you don't like the way Christians are being portrayed then maybe Christians shouldn't have been behaving like bullying intolerant tyrants since the days of Constantine the (alleged) Great. Like all self-proclaimed victims once examined it usually turns out your own behaviour makes you your own worst enemy.

[Nuggie77]

Thanos Thanos:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Makes me wonder how you'd react to The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and Jud Süß.

As historical artifacts they're invaluable in teaching what depths can be reached when superstition, stupidity, nihilism, and perversity are combined together and put on film or on paper. In the hands of true believers they're just another propaganda weapon for corralling more fools to the cause. That doesn't justify banning them though. Freedom means having to put up with icky things you don't like because your not liking them isn't a justifiable reason to ban them.

If you don't like the way Christians are being portrayed then maybe Christians shouldn't have been behaving like bullying intolerant tyrants since the days of Constantine the (alleged) Great. Like all self-proclaimed victims once examined it usually turns out your own behaviour makes you your own worst enemy.

[N_Fiddledog]

Thanos Thanos:

No, but your allies on the righteous right who like burning and banning...

Book-burnings. When did that happen? Are you sure it was the right?

I hear Huckleberry Finn wasn't politically correct so a PC brigade guy calling himself a professor thought he'd best rewrite it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ebate.html

The revision sounds like junk. May as well have just burned it. I keep my copy of Huck in a fireproof safe.

[BartSimpson]

Thanos, you have a demonstrated proclivity for outraging yourself at imaginary people and projected behaviors.

And you're doing it again.

I guess that's part of why I keep wondering if you're DerbyX because you sure sound like him when you get your hate on for Christians.

[ShepherdsDog]

Good thing Trump is illiterate, otherwise the book might give him ideas and all his psychophants would be be bleating about how wonderful they are.

[N_Fiddledog]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Good thing Trump is illiterate, otherwise the book might give him ideas and all his psychophants would be be bleating about how wonderful they are.

What color's the sun in your world?

Speaking of censorship though, I just thought of something real...

Isn't almost all of this online censorship we hear about at places like Facebook, YouTube, or Twitter more left-leaning? I know the no-platforming plague at Universities is.

But yeah, a few scattered evangelist parent types have objected to some books in places like school libraries.

Makes me wonder who the greater Big Brother censor is here? If we're going to start pointing fingers, I mean.

[ShepherdsDog]

$1:

What color's the sun in your world?

I was taught not to stare at the sun. I guess that's why you have trouble seeing things clearly.

[N_Fiddledog]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

$1:

What color's the sun in your world?

I was taught not to stare at the sun. I guess that's why you have trouble seeing things clearly.

You know, I was going to edit that 'colour of the sun' bit out of my post, because I thought it was a cheap shot and unworthy of me. Then I reposted and saw you were too quick for me so I put it back the way it was.

[ShepherdsDog]

$1:

I thought it was a cheap shot and unworthy of me.

[N_Fiddledog]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

$1:

I thought it was a cheap shot and unworthy of me.

C'mon Bud, it came with a winky. I know I can come back with the nasty against the nasty. *Slaps paw." Bad dog.

I'm always trying to reform, but you guys don't make it easy.

[peck420]

I find it rather comical that books will be banned...and cell phones will be given.

Whatever you thought your kid may have found offensive in the book...is nothing compared to what they have just looked up on the internet.

Just doesn't make an logical sense to me.

[BartSimpson]

peck420 peck420:

I find it rather comical that books will be banned...and cell phones will be given.

Whatever you thought your kid may have found offensive in the book...is nothing compared to what they have just looked up on the internet.

Just doesn't make an logical sense to me.

Interesting that the preponderance of smartphones and the ensuing ability of students to instantly question the propaganda of their liberal/left teachers has had a completely unexpected result:

http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/07/the-p ... democrats/

$1:

On Deck, “Generation Z,” the most conservative generation in 70 years. Born between 1995 -2010, they’re fiscally conservative, staunchly supportive of personal freedoms, and strong on national security including counter-terrorism and cyber-security, with a hint of isolationism. They don’t fit the mold for either political party in their current form, which is probably why data suggests they support the unconventional Donald Trump over the political status quo offered by either party.

“Digital Natives,” this generation will never experience life without the internet and interconnectivity of the landscape around them. They’ve never needed to ask another human being for directions – the world is open to them with limitless sources of information and no need to rely on one form of media. They are driven thinkers, attracted to fast-paced data, and willing to sift through the noise to find evidence backing their own ideologies and beliefs. While the September 11th attacks may not viscerally impact them like it does their elders, Gen Z has never known life without the threat posed by radical Islamic terrorism, and has had no experience of the world where the United States was not at war.

In comparison to preceding generations that had their early development shaped by naïve Disney movies and picture-postcard generalizations, Generation Z is growing up in the age of YouTube, twitter, and for better or worse, LiveLeak. This raw exposure to global events generates a more realistic, pragmatic, and a more calibrated, nuanced outlook than millennials before them. Gen Z values being challenged, contradiction, and debate, because their limitless options for information provides them with confidence.

Old mainstays of conventional politics are going to be pushed to the wayside as these “digital natives” gravitate to traditional positions from both parties. Socially both conservative and liberal, fiscally conservative, issue-based, and meritocratic, they trend towards individualism vs. collectivism while still motivated to effect social change.

Which means we can expect the left to sooner or later collect all the smartphones and burn them.