[ShepherdsDog]

Funny how they label themselves as 'true conservatives' and anybody who disagrees with anything they believe as as leftists and liberals. In reality there is nothing conservative
about them,as conservatism is all about a slow and steady change tempered with caution. They're just a bunch of reactionary regressives, as bad as the self labeled progressives of the extreme left. Radical rabble and refuse....the lot of them.

[stratos]

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There used to be Band Clubs, Chess Clubs and I even remember Rocketry Clubs. Gay Straight Alliances are just another after school club.

Used to be Christian groups also but they are banned. Now people are scorned when they say they are Christian.

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But Jason Kenney isn't likely to require a note home to mommy and daddy when little Johnny joins the Badminton Club, just when he joins a GSA.

Can't speak for others but back when I was in middle and high school we did have to have permission slips to join these types of groups. If you are not willing for a parent to know what their child is up to yet will allow the School run by the Gov. to say it's okay something is very wrong.

[Thanos]

Kids deserve privacy on certain issues and this is one of them.

[stratos]

Thanos Thanos:

Kids deserve privacy on certain issues and this is one of them.

Says who the Gov? If the kids need privacy why is the Gov. not giving it to them but insisting that they, the Gov. know, yet that parents are not allowed to know what their own child is up to?

[DrCaleb]

stratos stratos:

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But Jason Kenney isn't likely to require a note home to mommy and daddy when little Johnny joins the Badminton Club, just when he joins a GSA.

Can't speak for others but back when I was in middle and high school we did have to have permission slips to join these types of groups. If you are not willing for a parent to know what their child is up to yet will allow the School run by the Gov. to say it's okay something is very wrong.

I don't recall having to have any permission for anything past junior high. After that, I was mostly assumed to be responsible for my own actions.

stratos stratos:

Thanos Thanos:

Kids deserve privacy on certain issues and this is one of them.

Says who the Gov? If the kids need privacy why is the Gov. not giving it to them but insisting that they, the Gov. know, yet that parents are not allowed to know what their own child is up to?

No, the Charter of Rights and Freedoms Section 15 allows for the Right to freedom of sexual equality, and Section 8 allows for the Right to Privacy. GSAs came from the fundamental human right to express your sexuality without the stigma that might bring.

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“Some of those moments were very moving moments as you heard students telling their stories of being bullied, discriminated against, feeling suicidal, even attempting (it),” Dirks said.

“When that happens and you have those kinds of intimate, frank conversations with students, it goes from your head to your heart.”

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canad ... k-province

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What is a GSA/QSA?

Gay-straight alliances (GSAs) and queer-straight alliances (QSAs) are peer support networks that promote welcoming, caring, respectful and safe learning environments for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer (LGBTQ) students and their allies.

A GSA/QSA is run by students and supported by school staff and would be grounded in the principles of promoting:

equity for sexual and gender minority students
safe, caring and inclusive spaces for all students
healthy, respectful environments and relationships to prevent or eliminate bullying and discrimination

As peer support networks, GSAs/QSAs help LGBTQ students overcome feelings of isolation and alienation that are a result of homophobic and transphobic bullying. They help students begin to feel empowered as they develop a sense of belonging in their school. GSAs/QSAs also help interested students become allies for their LGBTQ peers and provide a safe place to help understand and learn how to offer support.

https://education.alberta.ca/gay-straight-alliances/

[DrCaleb]

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There used to be Band Clubs, Chess Clubs and I even remember Rocketry Clubs. Gay Straight Alliances are just another after school club.

Used to be Christian groups also but they are banned. Now people are scorned when they say they are Christian.

No, they are not banned. In fact, there are entire school systems run by the Catholic Church, and several run by the Baptist Church. Ironically, it's the Baptists that have a problem with GSAs.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/alb ... e34414038/

[Tricks]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

stratos stratos:

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There used to be Band Clubs, Chess Clubs and I even remember Rocketry Clubs. Gay Straight Alliances are just another after school club.

Used to be Christian groups also but they are banned. Now people are scorned when they say they are Christian.

No, they are not banned. In fact, there are entire school systems run by the Catholic Church, and several run by the Baptist Church. Unsurprisingly, it's the Baptists that have a problem with GSAs.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/alb ... e34414038/

Fixed.

[stratos]

Okay we are having a difference of understanding primarily do to different countries and so forth. Though I don't find it odd at all that the BAPTIST find just about anything as a problem.

My main disagreement is the exclusion of parents knowledge. Outside of that I've no issue with the group meeting and so forth.

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No, they are not banned. In fact, there are entire school systems run by the Catholic Church, and several run by the Baptist Church. Unsurprisingly, it's the Baptists that have a problem with GSAs.

Yet, at least in the US, the Catholic Schools are privately run not paid for via taxes. We are talking about public schools. Now if you have a group of bible study students wanting to have meetings there, is that legal/okay? In the US it's not.

[DrCaleb]

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Okay we are having a difference of understanding primarily do to different countries and so forth. Though I don't find it odd at all that the BAPTIST find just about anything as a problem.

My main disagreement is the exclusion of parents knowledge. Outside of that I've no issue with the group meeting and so forth.

I though it odd, because I've always thought of the Catholic Church to be the one that is far more rigid and exclusionary. They didn't even bat an eye at the requirement.

The problem with informing parents is you 'out' the kid as gay, perhaps to their detriment. Schools have a responsibility to protect kids, and that act can be unwise on many levels. It may be best to let the kid decide when and if they tell their parents of their sexual preferences.

So, the policy is that the club does no harm, and there is no physical risk to the child so parents don't need to know which clubs they belong to. The kid can tell them, if they want.

stratos stratos:

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No, they are not banned. In fact, there are entire school systems run by the Catholic Church, and several run by the Baptist Church. Unsurprisingly, it's the Baptists that have a problem with GSAs.

Yet, at least in the US, the Catholic Schools are privately run not paid for via taxes. We are talking about public schools. Now if you have a group of bible study students wanting to have meetings there, is that legal/okay? In the US it's not.

Here, the Catholic and Baptist schools are majority publicly funded. That's why there is no flexibility with the Baptist school. They can take public funding, and follow the law, or they can forgo public funding and do what they want.

That particular pastor is a bit of an attention hound too. I drive by that school every day, and he's put a big sign up on the side of a seacan pleading for Bill 10 to be repealed and if he thinks he's not getting enough attention, he'll deface it in pink spray paint and try to blame the LGBTQ community for it in the media. I feel bad for his students, because a high school diploma from that school is worthless because they refuse to teach the kids Science, so they don't get a Provincial High School Diploma but a Baptist one. No University, other than a Baptist one will accept the diploma, and no one will recognize a degree from a Baptist 'University' for the same reason.

[DrCaleb]

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Now if you have a group of bible study students wanting to have meetings there, is that legal/okay? In the US it's not.

Sorry, forgot this bit.

Bible studies, Muslim Prayers, Shinto rituals . . . It's all fine. Schools won't encourage it or make it mandatory, but if students want space for these things they are not forbidden and the schools will accommodate them where they can.