[N_Fiddledog]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Distortion. She was there to speak after prayer service. She was there waiting to speak after prayers. Saying she was FORCED to sit is a lie and and saying it was "in the back" is also misleading because the "front" of the mosque is the prayer room and the "back" is the entrance if you're going by which direction the members are facing. And also misleading is "while the men prayed". Women were there praying too.

Dishonesty dishonesty dishonesty. That's all you know. But that's ok, you're on a jihad of your own and I'm sure you think that your holy mission justifies your dishonesty.

There is a picture below. Check it out.

On the left you will notice a group of what cruder sections of those non-inclined to the religion of Islam have at times referred to as "arse-lifters".

This term will be necessary here to draw attention to the word "arse."

In more gentille groups this thing we call an "arse" is more often referred to in terms such as backside, behind, or the rear. This is opposite to terms such as the front, the lead, or the head.

So the backside is in the back. The front is where the head will lead - frontwards.

The pic on the left is a representation of a thing we call a mosque. Notice how the lifted "arse" or backside is in the back and what is dimpling the floor in the lead is the front.

Now follow from the back to the front with your eyes until there is no more room. Do you see a rather homely old woman sitting there in "the front" with a scarf wrapped around her head? You do not. This is because if such women were allowed to be in such a place when men were doing their "arse-lifting" she would not be in the front. She would generally be put in the back or other segregated space, then brought to an area to speak if allowed.

You will see that illustrated in the right of the picture. The scarf is called a hijab.
Reports say she is sitting in the rear where she has been put to wait for the men to finish praying.

These are all a thing we call "facts." They are evident to anybody with 2 eyes, multiple compatible reports of what was where, how such things are generally done and a working sense of reason. If you are telling people these things are not the case after that and expecting them to believe you, you are not just lying, you are stupid. You would be what we might call a stupid liar.

[N_Fiddledog]

In fact, how about a little exhibit B.

This is not the first time Kathleen Wynne has donned the hijab to allow herself to be segregated in the back of a mosque where the women go.



That's actually a raised dock above the mosque floor where the women are put. The men are on the floor below. "To the front

You can see this clearer in a pic in this video.



But basically, the point is, you can put this on the list of things Kathleen Wynne will allow herself to do and Marine Le Pen will not.

[herbie]

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But basically, the point is, you can put this on the list of things Kathleen Wynne will allow herself to do and Marine Le Pen will not.

BECAUSE Wynne wanted to talk to them an LePen wanted to insult them.
But you're gonna argue til you're blue in the face otherwise, right? That disrespecting and excluding them is somehow constructive.

[BeaverFever]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Distortion. She was there to speak after prayer service. She was there waiting to speak after prayers. Saying she was FORCED to sit is a lie and and saying it was "in the back" is also misleading because the "front" of the mosque is the prayer room and the "back" is the entrance if you're going by which direction the members are facing. And also misleading is "while the men prayed". Women were there praying too.

Dishonesty dishonesty dishonesty. That's all you know. But that's ok, you're on a jihad of your own and I'm sure you think that your holy mission justifies your dishonesty.

There is a picture below. Check it out.

On the left you will notice a group of what cruder sections of those non-inclined to the religion of Islam have at times referred to as "arse-lifters".

This term will be necessary here to draw attention to the word "arse."

In more gentille groups this thing we call an "arse" is more often referred to in terms such as backside, behind, or the rear. This is opposite to terms such as the front, the lead, or the head.

So the backside is in the back. The front is where the head will lead - frontwards.

The pic on the left is a representation of a thing we call a mosque. Notice how the lifted "arse" or backside is in the back and what is dimpling the floor in the lead is the front.

Now follow from the back to the front with your eyes until there is no more room. Do you see a rather homely old woman sitting there in "the front" with a scarf wrapped around her head? You do not. This is because if such women were allowed to be in such a place when men were doing their "arse-lifting" she would not be in the front. She would generally be put in the back or other segregated space, then brought to an area to speak if allowed.

You will see that illustrated in the right of the picture. The scarf is called a hijab.
Reports say she is sitting in the rear where she has been put to wait for the men to finish praying.

These are all a thing we call "facts." They are evident to anybody with 2 eyes, multiple compatible reports of what was where, how such things are generally done and a working sense of reason. If you are telling people these things are not the case after that and expecting them to believe you, you are not just lying, you are stupid. You would be what we might call a stupid liar.

I've explained it to you already, you haven't done anything but repeat your dishonest position because you're too much of a fucking idiot to stop for one second and think. I'm telling you that if Stephen Harper himself were visiting that same mosque he would be sitting in that exact same chair during the prayer section. Wynne being a woman had nothing to do with it.

The people pray facing mecca. Just because they're not facing YOU when they pray, doesn't mean you're at the back of the building, let alone "forced to sit at the back" of the building you fucking idiot. Like, when you enter a church, is priest at the front of the church or at the back of the church?

Let's just substitute "mosque" for the word "church" to get through your Muslim Derangement Syndrome. If you've been invited to speak at a church after prayer service has finished, and you're waiting inside the doorway for your turn, are you "being forced sit at the back of the church while the men prayed?" By your level of dishonesty, that would be a yes.

[N_Fiddledog]

Dear Dear...

Dumb and 'Dummerer' having a moron competition trying to decide which one can say the stupidest thing.

Now as to who's offering up something fresh all I've heard from you two bozos is the same lame old warmed over rinse and repeat of insults.

I've cleverly taught one of you how with Mosque prayers East is front and West is back, Women are generally placed in the back if allowed in the same area and this was not the first time a Hijabed Liberal Premier (in fact the same one was put in the back with the women.) I've also shown you how this Mosques has preached hate to homosexuals such as Kathleen Wynne.

None of this represents Western values, and disparages Kathy on a personal level. Yet you tell me the people of Ontario are required to show them respect.

And the reason I keep repeating Le Pen wouldn't shame herself and the platform she represents, but Kathy would is because that's point. That's why Le Pen won't don the hijab at Muslim command.

Now as to Moron # 2's idea that Harper would behave the same way, I don't know about that. You'd have to show me. If he ever did, I'd call him out on it too. I know a Moron # 3 who does do it though. Here he is campaigning at a Mosque known for its terrorist connections.

[N_Fiddledog]

And I have been educating the clown couple with fresh stuff they just refuse to see it and instead zero in on the same point they've been trained to feign outrage over.

I'm just shocked they haven't claimed 'Islamophobia' yet.

So here's the Hijab Premier at the Masjid Mosque in Toronto.



Here's a sample of the sort of thing they preach at Masjid.

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On February 18, 2017 CIJnews exposed excerpts from supplications (originally in Arabic) recited by Aymen Elkasrawy and Shaykh Abdool Hamid at Masjid Toronto mosque in 2016:

O Allah! We ask you… [to give us] victory over the enemies. O Allah! Raise the standing of Islam and the Muslims. O Allah! Give victory (help) to your oppressed slaves all over the world, east to west. O Allah! Give victory (help) to your slaves who believe in the oneness of Allah, O the Lord of the Worlds! O Allah! Destroy the criminals. O Allah! Destroy anyone who inflicts injustice on your slaves, O the Lord of the Worlds! O Allah! Count their number; slay them one by one and spare not one of them. O Allah! Do not defer [it] on them.O Allah! Seize them with the seizure of One Mighty, Omnipotent [referring to a Quranic verse that deals with the punishment Allah inflicted on Pharaoh and his people].

[O Allah!] Give us victory over the disbelieving people… O Allah! Give victory to Islam and raise the standing the Muslims. And humiliate the polytheism and polytheists. O Allah! Give victory (help) to your slaves who believe in the oneness of Allah, O the Lord of the Worlds!O Allah! Give them victory over the criminal people. O Allah! Destroy anyone who killed Muslims. O Allah! Destroy anyone who displaced the sons of the Muslims. O Allah! Count their number; slay them one by one and spare not one of them. O Allah! Purify Al-Aqsa Mosque from the filth of the Jews! O Allah! Purify Al-Aqsa Mosque from the filth of the Jews!

O Allah! Raise the standing of Islam and the Muslims.And humiliate the polytheism, the polytheists, the infidels and the atheists. And Give victory (help) to your slaves who believe in the oneness of Allah.O Allah! Give victory to our oppressed and deprived Muslim brothers and the mujahideen (those who engage in jihad) everywhere.O Allah! Pour on them patience and steadfast their feet. And give them victory over the disbelieving people. And give them victory over the evildoers And give them victory over the criminals.

http://en.cijnews.com/?p=210734

Did you catch that bit about how the Jerusalem mosque needs to be purified of and I quote - "the Filth of the Jews." I imagine the Dumbnamic Duo will be needing me to explain to them what is meant by "Purify".

In any case that's what the people of Ontario are being told their leader needs to show special respect for. Apparently if you don't see the need for it you're an Islamophobe.

[BartSimpson]

Dumb and Dumbass also missed this little gem:

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We should deal with them in the same way we deal with any people who are involved in alcoholics, gambling or adultery.

Oh, really? And how does Islam deal with people who are involved in alcohol, gambling, or adultery?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudud

Let me be clear; they're not proposing to welcome them with a 'Diversity and Tolerance Conference' at the local mosque.

[BeaverFever]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Nonsensical irrelevant and stupid shit

So you're telling me when Stephen Harper or any other male politician visits a mosque he actually attends prayer? Or he stands at the front of the room and the congregation prays facing him? If not, then fuck off because you have no point. If you are saying that, then you're a liar.

[herbie]

Oh FFS what's the point of even talking? These dimwits remind me of the shits I worked with that wouldn't service the local Sikh mosque cuz "they'd have to remove their steel toed boots and that's a safety violation". The fact they spent all coffee break telling Hindu and Paki jokes had nothing to do with it, it never does to utter arseholes that believe their own bullshit.
LePen didn't wanna even talk to Muslims that would repudiate the hate she promotes, fuck all to do with 'western values'.
Spare us your all your "(insert whatever here) values" save them for your next Nuremberg rally.

[N_Fiddledog]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

So you're telling me when Stephen Harper or any other male politician visits a mosque he actually attends prayer? Or he stands at the front of the room and the congregation prays facing him? If not, then fuck off because you have no point. If you are saying that, then you're a liar.

Well first of all fuck you too.

Secondly I thought we'd established who the liar was. It's you. In fact didn't we reach the conclusion you had advanced to the status of "stupid liar."

But if you like I can explain the difference between front and back of mosques to you again and show you how women are put in the back in defiance of the conventions of Western society (equality of the sexes and all that).

Because, guess what trying to make that appear honorable makes you?

Now as to what Stephen Harper might do in a mosque if he's ever been I thought I was clear on that one. I've never seen him making a dhimmi clown of himself like this joke of a Prime Minister...



but if you can show me a picture of him doing that we can both rip on him too.

[fifeboy]

Oh my God, what is happening here. LePen wouldn't follow Muslim tradition to give a speech but Wynne would. Politicians ALWAYS do things for political reasons (I hope we are all in agreement with that.) LaPen was sending a message to her constituents and so was Wynne. We already know what LaPen stands for! Wynne appears to want to include people. Do you like that? This whole thread is just bickering. Smile and sing kumbuya

Edit
Here ya go...I believe this one even has the words for those who missed (or don't remember) the '60's

Your welcome.

[N_Fiddledog]

herbie herbie:

Oh FFS what's the point of even talking? These dimwits remind me of the shits I worked with that wouldn't service the local Sikh mosque cuz "they'd have to remove their steel toed boots and that's a safety violation".

Oh I see. So now we're going to do that one where you're getting your ass handed to you on problem A, so you'd like to consider problem B.

Very well...let's discuss problem C

Let's talk about Valley Park Middle school. It's in or near Kathleen Wynne's riding.

It's a public school not a madrassa, but here's what they do on Fridays in the school cafeteria.

Now I notice you two are a little 'special needy' in the comprehension of basic concepts so we may have to learn our "fronts" and "backs" again.

An Imam comes to VPMS on Fridays and they turn the cafeteria into a mosque.



See that group at the front? Those are the little princes of male Mohammedism. See the lines behind the wooden barrier? Those are the girls. OK now go back even farther still...

See that lonely group of eight. Those are what the Imam might refer to as the "unclean". Those are girls who have reached an age they might be menstruating.

Now I can't swear by this next one, but if you were to go back farther still, perhaps to a special little spot of honor in the janitors closet, who knows? You might see this.

[N_Fiddledog]

And yes Marine Le Pen represents the modern west, so she recognizes a priority on western values over those above, so no, she will not offer 7th century values degrading women special respect.

Go Marine, is what I say.

[BeaverFever]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

So you're telling me when Stephen Harper or any other male politician visits a mosque he actually attends prayer? Or he stands at the front of the room and the congregation prays facing him? If not, then fuck off because you have no point. If you are saying that, then you're a liar.

Well first of all fuck you too.

Secondly I thought we'd established who the liar was. It's you. In fact didn't we reach the conclusion you had advanced to the status of "stupid liar."

But if you like I can explain the difference between front and back of mosques to you again and show you how women are put in the back in defiance of the conventions of Western society (equality of the sexes and all that).

Because, guess what trying to make that appear honorable makes you?

Now as to what Stephen Harper might do in a mosque if he's ever been I thought I was clear on that one. I've never seen him making a dhimmi clown of himself like this joke of a Prime Minister...

but if you can show me a picture of him doing that we can both rip on him too.

You're trying to change the subject like the shiftless Deplorable little shit that you are.

I didn't adk you to pontificate on how Muslims conduct prayer. We're talking about Wynne. Was ahe praying? No. Was she "forced to sit at the rear". No. So fuck off.

As for Trudeau what's the big deal with that picture? They're just eating a meal. What is so terrible about that?

[raydan]

Last job interview I went to, I had to wait in a "waiting room"... had to wear a suit, too.

The horror.