[BartSimpson]

Thanos Thanos:

Where can I sign up for this? Do they take early applicants?

Just go do it the old fashioned way.

[Freakinoldguy]

Public_Domain Public_Domain:

I'd like these folk to maybe push for more money being put into healthcare so there can be more adequate hospices and care.

But no, nothing like that from those shitting on euthenasia. Just arguments for cuts and privitization.

You certainly read alot into peoples posts? Because some people are concerned that the initial purpose of euthanasia has a strong possibility of being perverted into a money saving scheme doesn't mean that they don't support the real reason for allowing it in the first place.


But you're right that we as a society should be finding better and more humane ways of ensuring end life situations are palatable to all concerned including the dying, because if recent history is any indicator it's usually the most cost effective option that seems to always win out............ which is?

[Public_Domain]

[BartSimpson]

Public_Domain Public_Domain:

Fuck the most "cost effective". I want compassion.

But what you're going to get is cost control (with a dash of eugenics) dressed up as 'compassion'.

Grandpa is 65, retired, and his alcohol abuse treatment will cost $30,000???

It's cheaper to tell him he's getting a pneumonia vaccine and then shoot him up with an overdose of potassium.

But the doctors will tell the family that it was a 'compassionate decision based on quality of life'. Or they'll tell you to fuck off. That happens, too.

[Lemmy]

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[BartSimpson]

Lemmy Lemmy:

This is all tin-hat talk. Let me know when it actually happens and I'll be outraged.

Maybe it'll happen to you first. Then you'll just be dead.

[Public_Domain]

[Lemmy]

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[Thanos]

It should be a protected right of anyone, regardless of their physical/mental/emotional condition, to choose to leave when they want and how they want. With the kind if horrific world that is coming it'll become a radically popular action that more and more people will be wanting to take.

[BartSimpson]

Lemmy Lemmy:

Maybe it'll happen to you first. Then you'll just be dead.

And when I'm dead, I'll give an equal amount of credence to your nutty conspiracies as I do now. [/quote]

[Public_Domain]

[herbie]

So because allowing assistance to people who don't wish to live with constant medical assistance saves the cost of that assitance. it therefore equals killing people against their wishes to save money?

Sounds like Grampa's reasoning. Never used to hear more than whispers about them goddam homos, now they're everywhere. Soon as that goddam Trudeau legalized it they bred like flies!

[martin14]

Public_Domain Public_Domain:

Conspiracies are nice. As if the doctor making the call saves $30k personally, or gets paid nore.

Nope, it will be a 'greater good' kind of deal.
Right up your alley.

[Public_Domain]

[Caelon]

OK just to be contrary to the other responses, let's look at the direction we are headed demographically. We have an aging population due to the baby boom bubble. As the boomers go through retirement their demands on the health cre system will increase. We used to have the courtesy to die at an average age of 68. Now it is over 80 with a 25% chance one person of a couple will live to 96. The fastest growing age group is centanarians. As the study pointed out the healthcare costs in the last 6 months was 20% of the health budget for less than 1% of the population.

So in 2030 the boomers will be 65 to 84 years of age and really starting to suck up health care. The working part of the population as a percentage has been significantly reduced from past history. Can the health system still be funded to the same degree? Where will the tax dollars come from?

The boomers will be transferring massive amounts of wealth to their children when they die. Will the generation x an y's say enough is enough and vote to accellerate the process?