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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:02 pm
 


I'm breathing in pure CO2 right now, just to prove a point... I'll let you guys know how it turns outttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:53 pm
 


Tricks Tricks:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Tricks Tricks:
What are his credentials exactly to make the claim that CO2 isn't a pollutant?


The same as his credentials for saying that water isn't a pollutant.

So that's none.

Just making sure.


CO2 is not a pollutant except in the fevered minds of the devout believers of the Church of Climatology.

https://www.facebook.com/Church-of-Clim ... 502939836/


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:55 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:

CO2 is not a pollutant except in the fevered minds of the devout believers of the Church of Climatology.

Yes we know your stance.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:03 pm
 


N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
There seems to be more on the story in the OP:

Rogue U.S. government tweeters could be prosecuted as hackers


Ah, yes, don't want Assange or Snowden prosecuted but want some rando in the Parks Department sent to Gitmo for tweeting the news when Dickhead Oil & Mining eventually dumps 50000 gallons of cyanide into the Missouri River. Yes, all is proceeding according to the plan. Image


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:41 pm
 


Tricks Tricks:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:

CO2 is not a pollutant except in the fevered minds of the devout believers of the Church of Climatology.

Yes we know your stance.

He's playing with terminology Tricks. It might be a stretch to call it pollution but it IS a greenhouse gas.

Water isn't pollution either. But try breathing it in.

That point is just as valid as the one Bart was making.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:31 pm
 


Thanos Thanos:
Ah, yes, don't want Assange or Snowden prosecuted but want some rando in the Parks Department sent to Gitmo for tweeting the news when Dickhead Oil & Mining eventually dumps 50000 gallons of cyanide into the Missouri River. Yes, all is proceeding according to the plan. Image


It takes the vast resources of the Environmental Protection Agency to cause a really epic environmental disaster:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Gold ... ater_spill

$1:

The 2015 Gold King Mine waste water spill is a 2015 environmental disaster at the Gold King Mine near Silverton, Colorado.[2] On August 5, 2015, EPA personnel, along with workers for Environmental Restoration LLC (a Fenton, Missouri, company under EPA contract to mitigate pollutants from the closed mine), caused the release of toxic wastewater when attempting to add a tap to the tailing pond for the mine.[3] The maintenance by EPA was necessary because local jurisdictions had previously refused Superfund money to fully remediate the regions' derelict mines, due to a fear of lost tourism.[4] After the spill, the Silverton Board of Trustees and the San Juan County Commission approved a joint resolution seeking Superfund money.[5]

Contractors accidentally destroyed the plug holding water trapped inside the mine, which caused an overflow of the pond, spilling three million US gallons (11 ML) of mine waste water and tailings, including heavy metals such as cadmium and lead, and other toxic elements, such as arsenic,[6] beryllium,[6] zinc,[6] iron[6] and copper[6] into Cement Creek, a tributary of the Animas River in Colorado.[7] The EPA was criticized for not warning Colorado and New Mexico about the operation until the day after the waste water spilled, despite the fact the EPA employee "in charge of Gold King Mine knew of blowout risk."[8]

The EPA has taken responsibility for the incident, but refused to pay for any damages claims filed after the accident on grounds of sovereign immunity, pending special authorization from Congress or re-filing of lawsuits in federal court.[9] Governor of Colorado John Hickenlooper declared the affected area a disaster zone. The spill affects waterways of municipalities in the states of Colorado, New Mexico, and Utah, as well as the Navajo Nation. As of August 11, acidic water continued to spill at a rate of 500–700 US gal/min (1.9–2.6 m3/min) while remediation efforts were underway.[10]


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Yes, in another all-American incident of the government and taxpayers being stuck with the clean-up of a private sector enterprise long after the owners and shareholders long since absconded with the profit, not of penny of which went to repairing the mess they made.

You want to know where most of the misanthropy, disillusionment, and just plain nihilism I have in me now comes from? It was given birth by too many of the things that "conservatives" like you believe in and are inflicting on the world. You really and genuinely have doomed us all this time.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:53 pm
 


Thanos Thanos:
You really and genuinely have doomed us all this time.


You're welcome.


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Your own Wiki link confirms exactly what I said. Mine abandoned in 1923, responsibility for the mess tossed onto the Colorado and American taxpayers ever since. YOUR capitalism in action, once again.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:48 pm
 


Robair Robair:
Tricks Tricks:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:

CO2 is not a pollutant except in the fevered minds of the devout believers of the Church of Climatology.

Yes we know your stance.

He's playing with terminology Tricks. It might be a stretch to call it pollution but it IS a greenhouse gas.

Water isn't pollution either. But try breathing it in.

That point is just as valid as the one Bart was making.


Pollutant means too much of something. That's all. The same difference between a flower and a weed. A plant may be beautiful, but if there are too many of them, it's a weed.

Glad scientists are speaking out. We should have done it up here. Instead a few acted individually. Much stronger together.

The best thing Canada could do, in my opinion, is invest in R&D big time, particularly at universities, because there is going to be a brain drain down south. We should be a destination of choice for the brightest.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:50 pm
 


Thanos Thanos:
Yes, in another all-American incident of the government and taxpayers being stuck with the clean-up of a private sector enterprise long after the owners and shareholders long since absconded with the profit, not of penny of which went to repairing the mess they made.

You want to know where most of the misanthropy, disillusionment, and just plain nihilism I have in me now comes from? It was given birth by too many of the things that "conservatives" like you believe in and are inflicting on the world. You really and genuinely have doomed us all this time.


Exactly. These mines are all over the place. There impacts are felt on a geological time scale. Canada's contaminated site liability is over $4 billion. Two abandoned mines--Giant in NWT and Faro in Yukon, account for about half of that.


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