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shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

It's a weak argument and not entirely accurate. Why are companies moving to Mexico then? They just want to move their robots to a warmer climate?

The outsourcing is about labour. Has been for some time.

Yawn.

The regulatory system in the US is currently more burdensome than the labour costs. Has been for some time.

[shockedcanadian]

peck420 peck420:

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

It's a weak argument and not entirely accurate. Why are companies moving to Mexico then? They just want to move their robots to a warmer climate?

The outsourcing is about labour. Has been for some time.

Yawn.

The regulatory system in the US is currently more burdensome than the labour costs. Has been for some time.

Fair enough, and it's changing along with a much lower tax rate.

The only reason the America First mantra is so popular because there has been a concerted effort by too many to undermine America. $20T in debt and counting and jobs leaving in droves.

Canada will be the second or third biggest loser in all of this, outside of Mexico and potentially China. It's ironic that we refused to adapt and evolve after so many years. Now we get the hammer when we could have and should have been in a far better position.

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shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

Fair enough, and it's changing along with a much lower tax rate.

No it's not. And, the President doesn't have the power to make the majority of the required changes, short of getting the Constitution changed. Which is a major crux. States have a lot more power in this than people seem to realize.

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The only reason the America First mantra is so popular because there has been a concerted effort by too many to undermine America. $20T in debt and counting and jobs leaving in droves.

The single largest undermining factor in the US has yet to be addressed. The US consumer.

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Canada will be the second or third biggest loser in all of this, outside of Mexico and potentially China. It's ironic that we refused to adapt and evolve after so many years. Now we get the hammer when we could have and should have been in a far better position.

Not really.

How we decide to react to the changes will decide the impact of those changes.

As for Mexico and China, well, Mexico is always a bit of a wild card, and China will be fine. Their economy already started to shift long before Trump's name ever hit a ballot. If anything, Trump's aggression with China is just going to hasten their transition, which will hasten some of the less optimal things as well.

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Trumps talks with Taiwan President: Tsai Ing-wen calls Donald, Western media flips out
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[Freakinoldguy]

Interestingly enough I read that the Chinese had flown two nuclear capable bombers over Taiwan just before the Donald's phone call. So, was this a gaffe on his part like the mainstream media wants us to believe or, is it a calculated message sent to the Chinese that it's not business as usual and the big dog still has some bite?

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/12/05 ... ident.html

My guess is that it's the latter and the over reaction from the talking heads in the States is because he's not going to play by their preconceived rules when it comes to sending a message about US foreign policy.

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Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Interestingly enough I read that the Chinese had flown two nuclear capable bombers over Taiwan just before the Donald's phone call. So, was this a gaffe on his part like the mainstream media wants us to believe or, is it a calculated message sent to the Chinese that it's not business as usual and the big dog still has some bite?

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/12/05 ... ident.html

My guess is that it's the latter and the over reaction from the talking heads in the States is because he's not going to play by their preconceived rules when it comes to sending a message about US foreign policy.

It was a little of both. Since the Nixon years the Americans have taken the position that is better and safer to just play nice with China, get in line with their view of Taiwan. Just the fact that China is expanding is a major threat to their neighbours, and once in awhile American jets have flown near these expansions to flex, but no actions of sort are taken. Trump has some advisors on his team who are very pro-Taiwan independence, some even from the Bush era.

Seems the strategy of appeasement isn't working. The Chinese are now expanding their military into the sea, happily stealing jobs and greasing the government by buying debt. About time they are "confronted", or really in this case insulted and or, put on notice. America had best do it now rather than later. Cut off the head of this snake before it gets too powerful and uncontrollable.

I'm not someone who wants war, but I do want tough diplomacy and consequences for those who abuse their authority. Can you imagine the outrage if America were expanding into the ocean? Building military facilities and runways? If China were a democracy, capitalist in nature and committed to world peace, that's one thing, this isn't the case, they are focused on an expanding empire and super power.

I hate to sound like a conspiracist, but this lack of balance from global leaders sure sounds like a world that is happy to see America weaker and their enemies more emboldened.

[ShepherdsDog]

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I hate to sound like a conspiracist,

Everyone here already thinks you're bat shit insane.