[martin14]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

uwish uwish:

the BBC's annual budget is over $5B pounds, approximately 10x the CBC annual budget, and this 'extra' money would not necessarily improve anything at the CBC as it would just offset losses in add revenue.

The BBC is also funded differently. It gets a share of the revenue for the tax on every TV set in the UK.

That's how it can produce shows like Top Gear and Doctor Who.

Produced.... produced.

They fucked up both.

But everyone get in line to pay 145 pounds a year if you have any kind of screen
in your house. Cuz it's not just tv anymore.

Yeah... no.

uwish uwish:

I hope your not proposing another tax for the CBC?

Oh, he probably is.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Wr already have multiple tv stations that are profitable and self sustainable. We don't need CBC.

**Edited because the rest of your post was superfluous.


CBC lost it's net worth when it lost HNIC. It's been estimated that HNIC alone accounted for more than 50% of CBC's ad revenue on it's English language TV service.

In an internal memo at that time, CBC President Hubert Lacroix said, "it's clear that tough and more fundamental decisions will have to be made to establish a longer-term, sustainable, financial model for our corporation."

Yeah so? I say good riddance. HNIC is an example of what CBC should NOT be doing.

Really. Canada's national broadcaster should NOT be broadcasting Canada's national sport.
Of course you ignore the part where the CBC Pres said "It's clear that tough and more fundamental decisions will have to be made to establish a longer-term, sustainable, financial model for our corporation."
And as I said previously, it looks like begging for tax dollars is their new financial model. Yep, got this huge brain trust at the CBC and the best financial model they could come up with is to lighten the taxpayer's pockets even further.

Now, considering that the CBC has lost around $400 million in revenues since SN took over Saturday's HNIC broadcast, it seems funny that all they need is that $400 million back and we'll magically have an ad-free CBC even though they weren't ad free when they had that $400 million in the first damn place. And before you get all giggity about that comment, not all of the $400 million in lost revenues was from the loss of HNIC.

But you'll be happy to know that after this season, and two more seasons, the CBC won't be showing HNIC anymore.

[BartSimpson]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

BBC has much better content. If it's enough to get rid of low-budget "Canadian content" programs nobody watches and hockey and replce those with Canadian-centric higher production quality shows that people want to watch, then I'm all for it.

And the BBC is ad free. If they can make some of the best shows worldwide, why can't the CBC?

For a few bucks more a year, I say give it a try.

The BBC is funded in large part by the licenses the Brits pay annually on every television they own. It is no more self-sustaining than is the CBC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC

Also, don't forget that the geniuses at BBC were also in a perpetual state of war against the program Top Gear even though it was their number one money maker.

[shockedcanadian]

This is the same CBC that refused to reveal publicly the salaries they paid their employees! A publicly funded organization that decides it is not accountable to the taxpayers who fund them. Sounds alot like the police in Canada quite frankly.

This is the problem with picking winners and losers in this socialist system, a typical socialists borrow and spend mentality. The CBC wants $400M more while many in Alberta are unemployed. Every industry faces challenges but the CBC is above these risks because they are government patsies, many of them CSIS employees you can be sure. Is this fair to the family in Alberta that watch their homes foreclose? Or the University graduate in Ontario who has a mountain of debt and little employment prospects because his country squandered the free market?

Not a dime more. In fact, find ways to CUT more from this network. Funding the CBC with more money while the Toronto Sun TV, regardless of what ones think of such a network (no different than aljazeera or some other fringe network), couldn't be added to regular cable to sustain their business. While other media outlets are cutting staff and are risk of closure, CBC grows and shrugs their shoulders at their competitions misfortune. If it can't sustain itself, fold and let the free market decide.

By the way, the entire premise of the CBC and it's secrecy around salaries, is why our allies don't trust us. Similar to Federal politicians refusing to reveal where they spend their budget, yes, THEIR budget, as if it was ordained from God; is why our allies don't trust us. The entire absurdity of government interference in this country in the free market is precisely why Netflix told CRTC to fly a kite.

Unlike much of what is run here, Netflix built it's own business, it's own revenue model and is not beholden to bureaucrats looking to have their coffers greased or their egos stroked.

[BartSimpson]

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

This is the same CBC that refused to reveal publicly the salaries they paid their employees! A publicly funded organization that decides it is not accountable to the taxpayers who fund them. Sounds alot like the police in Canada quite frankly.

This is the problem with picking winners and losers in this socialist system, a typical socialists borrow and spend mentality. The CBC wants $400M more while many in Alberta are unemployed. Every industry faces challenges but the CBC is above these risks because they are government patsies, many of them CSIS employees you can be sure. Is this fair to the family in Alberta that watch their homes foreclose? Or the University graduate in Ontario who has a mountain of debt and little employment prospects because his country squandered the free market?

Not a dime more. In fact, find ways to CUT more from this network. Funding the CBC with more money while the Toronto Sun TV, regardless of what ones think of such a network (no different than aljazeera or some other fringe network), couldn't be added to regular cable to sustain their business. While other media outlets are cutting staff and are risk of closure, CBC grows and shrugs their shoulders at their competitions misfortune. If it can't sustain itself, fold and let the free market decide.

By the way, the entire premise of the CBC and it's secrecy around salaries, is why our allies don't trust us. Similar to Federal politicians refusing to reveal where they spend their budget, yes, THEIR budget, as if it was ordained from God; is why our allies don't trust us. The entire absurdity of government interference in this country in the free market is precisely why Netflix told CRTC to fly a kite.

Unlike much of what is run here, Netflix built it's own business, it's own revenue model and is not beholden to bureaucrats looking to have their coffers greased or their egos stroked.

[DrCaleb]

martin14 martin14:

uwish uwish:

I hope your not proposing another tax for the CBC?

Oh, he probably is.

Because he does that all the time.

[DrCaleb]

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

This is the same CBC that refused to reveal publicly the salaries they paid their employees!

$1:

On-Air Talent

The following chart summarizes the actual compensation for on-air talent, as of April 1, 2016 (excluding overtime). This information is set out in the form of salary bands (of $50,000 increments) and is aggregated, where necessary, to protect the privacy rights of individuals under the Privacy Act.

Senior Management

The following chart summarizes the compensation for CBC/Radio-Canada’s senior management. It sets out their base salary range and total cash compensation range. It also provides comparisons with compensation in the market.

Proactive Disclosure

CBC/Radio-Canada continues to look for ways to increase its accountability and transparency with Canadians, including through proactive disclosure. By providing this information, the Corporation is at the forefront of other Crown Corporation and other broadcasters, providing a clear picture of the remuneration earned by its employees, while maintaining its ability to attract and retain high-calibre talent in a very competitive broadcasting industry and respecting existing federal law regarding the privacy of individual's specific salaries.

In this way, Canadians can be assured of the Corporation's continued responsible management of its public resources.

http://www.cbc.radio-canada.ca/en/repor ... pensation/

Yea, totally refused to show us salaries.

[shockedcanadian]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

This is the same CBC that refused to reveal publicly the salaries they paid their employees!

$1:

On-Air Talent

The following chart summarizes the actual compensation for on-air talent, as of April 1, 2016 (excluding overtime). This information is set out in the form of salary bands (of $50,000 increments) and is aggregated, where necessary, to protect the privacy rights of individuals under the Privacy Act.

Senior Management

The following chart summarizes the compensation for CBC/Radio-Canada’s senior management. It sets out their base salary range and total cash compensation range. It also provides comparisons with compensation in the market.

Proactive Disclosure

CBC/Radio-Canada continues to look for ways to increase its accountability and transparency with Canadians, including through proactive disclosure. By providing this information, the Corporation is at the forefront of other Crown Corporation and other broadcasters, providing a clear picture of the remuneration earned by its employees, while maintaining its ability to attract and retain high-calibre talent in a very competitive broadcasting industry and respecting existing federal law regarding the privacy of individual's specific salaries.

In this way, Canadians can be assured of the Corporation's continued responsible management of its public resources.

http://www.cbc.radio-canada.ca/en/repor ... pensation/

Yea, totally refused to show us salaries.

First, notice the date....this was demanded and refused when Harper was in power. This was released April, 2016.

Second, there were loud cries that some salaries, such as Peter Mansbridge was being under reported.