[shockedcanadian]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Lemmy Lemmy:

Leitch seems to be hitching her horse to a Trumpish strategy. It was bound to happen, but I didn't expect it to come from someone who's educated.

Educated doesn't always equate to intelligent.

I wouldn't write her off yet. She is using the same tactics that Harper tried to win the last election with. And she saw how saying something outrageous every day kept Trumps name in the headlines without much cost to the campaign.

She's just floating cheap trial balloons and using the media to develop a platform based on popularity. It might work. Or it might turn out the same as it did for Harper unless she realizes we don't fall for divisive politics for very long.

Depends how desperate and disenfranchised Canadians become. If Trump does as he is planning, eliminates H1B Visas, that's a few thousand Canadians who will be coming home to be unhappy with major pay cuts, increased living expenses and less freedoms. Plus, the added competition among the highly educated in Canada that wasn't expected. If he renegotiates or eliminates NAFTA, that's a few billion (hundred billion) chopped out of the economy. People will be angry and look for answers. You look at the country through your own subjective prism, wait until potential changes take effect.

People are already struggling mercilessly. Ontario broke and hammered by socialism and those who support the socialists, Alberta with low oil prices and decreased exports to America, Toronto has the highest level of poverty among children in the entire country on top of strained departments. Under what premise are citizens going to be motivated to just elect a cookie cutter candidate for more of the same? Cronyism and nepotism will be first on the block, hence, her targeting of the CBC, and it is warranted to some degree.

[herbie]

That tactic won't work, we're not feeling desperate and disenfranchised in the same way, plus on average have more political savvy than Americans.
Most of us are aware politicians can't do dick shit anyway. I was actually surprised when the results of a survey I took part in were published. Here in BC where Christy Clark is STILL pushing her grand vision of LNG exports.
Turned out the largest group felt just like me. No matter what she does, the market makes it happen and not party policies.
And what 'fear factor'? Canadians don't tremble under their beds about some imaginary bogeyman.

[Lemmy]

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[shockedcanadian]

Americans have always believed they can accomplish anything, they demand results and politicians to keep their word. Unlike say, the constant abuses and rhetoric that was not kept in Ontario but noone cares as they blindly vote in the same party over and over. Americans will give you a one term and boot you out right quick. If your party survives the mid-terms at all.

They put the man on the moon, defeated Communism, invented everything from the car to the airplane. Under what premise do you think Americans don't expect to find a way and the will to win? This is why Trumps campaign resonated. "We don't win anymore" You don't think this type of attitude means something? We had better judge him for his early appointments to understand what sort of government he wants. They are going to utilize government as citizens want, to take action on abuses (especially from other states) and then let the free market do the rest.

They want to get rid of the cronyism not embrace it and protect it with sub-par state loyalists as Canada has. Canada does this at the expense of civil liberties and individual freedoms for the "collective good". Well, then don't be insulted when Americans decide that what is good for them, isn't in line with what is good for us. They send 15% of exports to Canada, peanuts compared to the % we export to them. CBC is the perfect candidate for a major shakeup, this much is certain.

A little less Stockwell Day and his post-political rewards for appearances on Power and Politics, and more objective news that matters.

[BeaverFever]

$1:

Americans have always believed they can accomplish anything, they demand results and politicians to keep their word.

I don't know where you learned to be such an American bootlick, always gushing about how benevolent and virtuous you think Americans are. America has one of the least effective and least accountable systems of government among any western democracy. Why don't you take your nose out of Ronald Reagan's adult diaper for a minute and take a look around.

[shockedcanadian]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

$1:

Americans have always believed they can accomplish anything, they demand results and politicians to keep their word.

I don't know where you learned to be such an American bootlick, always gushing about how benevolent and virtuous you think Americans are. America has one of the least effective and least accountable systems of government among any western democracy. Why don't you take your nose out of Ronald Reagan's adult diaper for a minute and take a look around.

American government hasn't terrorized me, Canada has and without domestic recourse. My nose will remain firmly lodged in this diaper. When I take a look around all I see are cowards and the unaccountable.

I didn't ask for this fight, and I gave Canada plenty of opportunity to right the wrong. The arrogance of some agencies is astonishing, even in the face of obvious failures and abuses.

[BeaverFever]

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

$1:

Americans have always believed they can accomplish anything, they demand results and politicians to keep their word.

I don't know where you learned to be such an American bootlick, always gushing about how benevolent and virtuous you think Americans are. America has one of the least effective and least accountable systems of government among any western democracy. Why don't you take your nose out of Ronald Reagan's adult diaper for a minute and take a look around.

American government hasn't terrorized me, Canada has and without domestic recourse. My nose will remain firmly lodged in this diaper. When I take a look around all I see are cowards and the unaccountable.

I didn't ask for this fight, and I gave Canada plenty of opportunity to right the wrong. The arrogance of some agencies is astonishing, even in the face of obvious failures and abuses.

I didn't ask you why you hate Canada, I asked why you fawn over the US so much.

[shockedcanadian]

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I don't know where you learned to be such an American bootlick, always gushing about how benevolent and virtuous you think Americans are. America has one of the least effective and least accountable systems of government among any western democracy. Why don't you take your nose out of Ronald Reagan's adult diaper for a minute and take a look around.[/quote]

American government hasn't terrorized me, Canada has and without domestic recourse. My nose will remain firmly lodged in this diaper. When I take a look around all I see are cowards and the unaccountable.

I didn't ask for this fight, and I gave Canada plenty of opportunity to right the wrong. The arrogance of some agencies is astonishing, even in the face of obvious failures and abuses.[/quote]

I didn't ask you why you hate Canada, I asked why you fawn over the US so much.[/quote]

When did I say I hate Canada? Quite a broad statement and a disingenuous representation of my experiences. I don't suffer from Stockholm Syndrome, I'm not going to empathise with state terror against a citizen. When someone robs you of your car you don't ask the victim "why do you dislike the guy who robbed you?" I am the victim, I didn't ask to be treated in this manner.

I, and MANY around the world respect America because they created the system of individualism. They demand accountability and have multiple processes to obtain such accountability. A constitution which is the envy of the world and has remained in place for two hundred years. "All men are created equal", and the adherence to these views as close as possible considering the state of the rest of the world and their inability to aspire to such lofty goals.

Noone is above the law in America and anyone has the opportunity to achieve success, not have their success "bestowed" upon them but earned through your own efforts, talents and merit. Not only espousing tenets of freedom but openly suggesting that freedom should be expanded to all, and not apologizing for this opinion.

If you don't like America that's your problem. You are entitled to your opinion, one I don't share.

[Thanos]

You don't like America either, not the real one anyway that's riddled with major institutional problems on all levels now. When you say they're superior or more moral or more fair than Canada then all you're doing is worshiping an illusion you cooked up in your head, an illusion so off kilter from reality it's like you made it all up after reading some American elementary civics textbook from the 1950's.