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[N_Fiddledog]

No. That's not "simple enough."

2Cdo said "Far too often."

Beave offered a correction to that as "Almost never."

2Cdo is correct. Beave is wrong.

That is "simple enough."

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[N_Fiddledog]

Also...and come to think of it, 2Cdo didn't specify Muslims. He said "select groups"

So that would include cases like mattress girl, the recent Rolling Stone rape hoax, Tawana Brawley, Rachel Dolezal, fake claims by social justice warriors and such.

So add this one to your list for a quick scan. Again there's tons more if you want it.

http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/

And no, herb I won't be holding your little hand to show you how to check source links in an archive. Figure it out.

[N_Fiddledog]

But yes, as I understand the jist of this, it's correct.

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Far too often "crimes" against select groups are usually of their own doing to drum up support/sympathy for them.

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[N_Fiddledog]

First of all you're up tonight with me superstar, so lose the superior internet smirk. It only makes you look silly.

Secondly, can the desperate, technical parsing of colloquial language. It means what it appears to mean, not what you can twist with nonsense attempts at technical analysis.

Or how about this? 2cdo is the expert on what he meant. I'm willing to wait until I hear from the expert what he meant. How about you?

[BeaverFever]

Public_Domain Public_Domain:

The point of contention is "usually". Are most rape accisations false? I know you like to stay up into the late hours reading as many blog posts as you can anytime a rape accusation is heard, but do you believe that such claims are "usually" false?

Of course it happens "far too often", any amount of times is too often, but that isn't the point of contention in the post at all. It's "usually".

Since when is a false rape allegation a fake hate crime?

There were over a thousand hate crimes in Canada last reporting year (2013) alone. Were there more than a thousand fake hate crime reports in Canada to justify the word "usually"? Nope!

Instead, conservatives give us a laundry list of various events that happened around the world over the last several years,some which, like false rape allegations, have nothing to do with actual hate crimes, and still don't get anywhere near the number of active hate crimes.

Even right wing shitstain Breitbart only claims 100 false hate crimes in the past DECADE. The FBI records over 5000 hate crimes PER YEAR. Even if you assume Breitbart isn't exaggerating the numbers,which they probably are, that means 99.8% of hate crimes are legit. That hardly supports the assertion that hate crimes are "usually" fake and seems more like "almost never".

[2Cdo]

I meant EXACTLY what I said and nothing more. But I also KNEW that certain members would leap in proclaiming that this rarely, if ever happens.

In this case it was their muslim pets saying they are victims and we know that muslims are the only group in the world that never lie.

At least according to their apologists.

[BeaverFever]

Muslim or non-Muslim, the simple fact is that hate crime attacks are not "usually" false flag propaganda operations as you suggested. End of story

[2Cdo]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Muslim or non-Muslim, the simple fact is that hate crime attacks are not "usually" false flag propaganda operations as you suggested. End of story

[PublicAnimalNo9]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

I'll hold judgement on this. Far too often "crimes" against select groups are usually almost never of their own doing to drum up support/sympathy for them.

FTFY

20% of the time is almost never? 20% isn't "usually" but it sure ain't "almost never" either.
However, that 20% is also the bare minimum. Chances are pretty good it's even higher.

[BeaverFever]

Where do you get 20% from?

[Lemmy]

I tried to find statistics, but didn't have much luck. I did find that the FBI reported 6,933 hate crimes in 2013. So, if we believe PA9's number, that means there were/are roughly 1,300 fake hate-crime accusations per year. That number sounds like bullshit to me, especially when there's absolutely no mention of ANY fake hate-crime reports among the FBI statistics I could locate.

Sure, these things happen, but I suspect it's a handful per year, not >1000. To suggest that even 1% are false sounds like a gross exaggeration. Especially when all the stories that pop up on a Google search come from Breitbart and other dubious sources.

[Thanos]

That overall number should be three to four times hire but they don't count incidents when a white gets beaten or murdered by a minority as a hate crime.