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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 12:25 pm
Well if they are cowards we don't have worry about them being terrorists. People are getting way more spun up over this than they should be.
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 1:13 pm
On another thread we were told we could trust the Refugee vetting process, because they were vetted by the UN before they got here. Turns out when you hear how that works, it's a joke. $1: The astute among you will have already identified the weak link in the chain: the resettlement support center. The RSC is not an American entity. International and local organizations are contracted to staff and operate the RSCs, and while there is a measure of screening applied to the workers, it is largely limited to typical employment information as opposed to high-level security clearance screening.
The gatekeepers to America aren't Americans. Couple this with the reality on the ground in Syria – there are no government records to search – and the dossier prepared on Syrian refugees is thin indeed. There have been credible reports that at least one of the RSCs tasked with processing requests for asylum has been routinely rejecting applications from Christians – not after careful consideration, mind you, but rather by tossing them directly into the trash.
The RSCs in these areas are staffed by Muslims, and clear preference has been given to Muslim applicants, resulting in a 96:4 ratio of Muslim asylees to Christian/non-Muslim asylees.
The claim by refugee advocates that stringent vetting is the norm, not the exception would be laughable if it were not so deliberately false and absurdly dangerous. The system relies on information gleaned almost entirely from the refugees themselves.
The vaunted electronic database searches conducted by the State Department are worthless without reliable data, and as we have seen, even the "JV" team is capable of crafting rudimentary identities. It would not be too great a challenge for ISIS to insert as many jihadists as they might want into the refugee stream.
Absent a refugee waving an ISIS flag strung on the bloody blade of a scimitar, we have literally no reliable way of ascertaining threats among the crowd clamoring for entry. http://www.americanthinker.com/articles ... z3s4uKkNqN
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 1:20 pm
And here's another thing: these refugees aren't actually refugees.
Or at least they aren't in the sense that you are being sold they are. They are no longer in danger. They aren't coming from Syria. They're coming from camps in places like Lebanon, Jordan or Turkey.
Remember that Kurdi guy who started the roar of the sympathy brigade when his kid got drowned after a boat Dad was piloting sunk? Well, that "refugee" had been working for over a year on construction in Turkey before his refugee running boat sunk.
These guys are migrants. Some are migrant workers. Some are welfare migrants.
And it isn't just the danger of fully formed terrorists sneaking in among the crowd. The Trudeau method insures a culture that comes with a radicalization component.
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 1:29 pm
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: watched Real Time last night. They had Chrystia Freeland, the new Minister of International Trade.....boy did she come across as a vapid twit, while discussing issues related to terrorism and religious ideology. If you think being interrupted by a couple twits convinced Islam is inherently evil and one who kept spouting math figures without knowing basic logic behind it, one would agree. Tack on the "what would you know you're a fucking woman/Canadian" attitude they could barely contain.
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 2:08 pm
I feel like he should extend his deadline. I get what he is doing, he doesn't want to fall back on a campaign promise so soon in office but, obviously new information has become available and more caution is required.
I am only assuming he must have huge confidence in the process because it is an incredible political gamble for him to take. Who is really going to be that pissed if he extends his timeline to February or March ?
I just hope that his confidence is grounded in fact that he is privy too and we aren't because I am not nearly as confident that he can safely screen 25, 000 people in 40 days.
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 2:35 pm
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/11/the_refugee_resettlement_tango.html#ixzz3s4uKkNqN American Stinker!!! Come on FD, that's even worst than that British rag you usually link to. 
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 2:38 pm
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: watched Real Time last night. They had Chrystia Freeland, the new Minister of International Trade.....boy did she come across as a vapid twit, while discussing issues related to terrorism and religious ideology.
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 2:46 pm
raydan raydan: N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/11/the_refugee_resettlement_tango.html#ixzz3s4uKkNqN American Stinker!!! Come on FD, that's even worst than that British rag you usually link to.  You mean The Guardian, or do you mean The BBC? Try this. Actually click the link at AT. Scroll down. See those emboldened lines. Those are links to sources verifying the facts. If you find one you doubt, by all means rush immediately to your heroes at the state run media of the CBC and find something like a fact that will contradict them. I can save you some time there. Other than telling you something like how dreamy Justin's eyes are they aren't going to help you with actual facts on this matter. Ever heard of Kitman? It's one of the 4 methods of Islamic lying. Kitman telling lies by omitting facts. The Regressives at the CBC are masters of it. Ever heard the one about not throwing stones in a glass house?
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 2:54 pm
Try The Gawker... Southwest Airlines Is Allowing Its Racist Passengers To Kick Muslim Passengers off Their Flights McDonald's Fined $355,000 For Allegedly Being Consistently Shitty to Immigrants or... Political Correctness Keeps Us From Talking Honestly About the Refugees Another rag, but this one points in the other direction. 
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 3:09 pm
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog: ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: watched Real Time last night. They had Chrystia Freeland, the new Minister of International Trade.....boy did she come across as a vapid twit, while discussing issues related to terrorism and religious ideology. She's a complete moron. It's going to be a long 4 years with her type ruining running the country.
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 3:24 pm
You only ever link to right-wing rags, I suggested to go see a left-wing one once in a while... expand your horizons a bit. 
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 3:30 pm
raydan raydan: You only ever link to right-wing rags, I suggested to go see a left-wing one once in a while... expand your horizons a bit.  I tried Rabble.ca once and needed a shower after reading it. 
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andyt
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 3:40 pm
2Cdo 2Cdo: Brenda Brenda: Those refugees are fleeing for the same violence you are so afraid of. They have nothing left.
The Paris attackers were European citizens.
I'm a European citizen. I guess that makes me a terrorist, or a potential terrorist... I know Brenda, all muslims are peaceful and the fact that upwards of 80% of them are males aged 18-30 means absolutely nothing.  80% of Muslims are males ages 18 - 30. Wow, that's some demographic skewing there. No wonder they are so antagonistic, but it would mean their chances to breed more Muslims are severely curtailed.
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andyt
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 3:42 pm
bootlegga bootlegga: As long they bring in families, the risk is pretty small. My only concern would be if they allow in single men. Not a chance in hell. These are UN HCNR vetted refugees. Families, widows, etc. Single men don't qualify.
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andyt
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 3:43 pm
Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes: Well if they are cowards we don't have worry about them being terrorists. People are getting way more spun up over this than they should be. You realize Bill Maher got in all kinds of hot water saying the 911 guys weren't cowards. I believe he lost his show over it. Gotta watch what you say in the new age of hysteria.
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