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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:46 am
 


Thanos Thanos:
This entire "leap into action" scenario is a complete fantasy


You don't read the news much, do you?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/a ... is-express


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I totally respect the US military. I have no respect for some poorly educated American cretin that thinks he has to collect a hundred firearms, and parade around with them in a place like Walmart, because Alex Jones or Wayne LaPierre has convinced said cretin that he has to do this to keep Obama at bay.


A right that no one is willing to exercise is no longer a right.


An armed society isn't a polite society. It's an intimidated society, where the intent of your putting your right on public display has much less to do with your rights than it does with cowing others into what you consider to be proper behaviour. I can't think of anyone on this planet that I would trust less than someone obsessed with their own rights and who is also completely indifferent to the concept of their own responsibilities.

Every other generation of Americans, prior to the Vietnam era which apparently kicked off all this insane anti-government nonsense, markedly did not behave in this manner. Your generation does though, as do the generations following yours, and the huge unanswered question hanging over everything is why. :?


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Thanos Thanos:
This entire "leap into action" scenario is a complete fantasy


You don't read the news much, do you?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/a ... is-express


Pretty damn huge difference between the cramped confined space of a train and insisting that someone could have successfully confronted a lunatic shooting up a dark movie theater like happened in Colorado.


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Thanos Thanos:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Thanos Thanos:
This entire "leap into action" scenario is a complete fantasy


You don't read the news much, do you?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/a ... is-express


Pretty damn huge difference between the cramped confined space of a train and insisting that someone could have successfully confronted a lunatic shooting up a dark movie theater like happened in Colorado.
Dont bother, the playbook calls for them to use one or two incidents and try to portray them as representative of the other 40,000 shooting incidents they have a year. You use stats and data in the thousands and they use an article with a single incident. False equivalence is the name of the game.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:45 am
 


Thanos Thanos:
Pretty damn huge difference between the cramped confined space of a train and insisting that someone could have successfully confronted a lunatic shooting up a dark movie theater like happened in Colorado.


Keep in mind that in Colorado the killer chose the theater in question because it was the only one showing Batman that was also a "Gun Free Zone". He was practically assured of unarmed victims.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/ ... eater.html

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Instead, out of all the movie theaters within 20 minutes of his apartment showing the new Batman movie that night, it was the only one where guns were banned. In Colorado, individuals with permits can carry concealed handgun in most malls, stores, movie theaters, and restaurants. But private businesses can determine whether permit holders can carry guns on their private property.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:57 pm
 


One armed civillian could stop a mass shooting but is that person trained to respond? That's the concern.


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BRAH BRAH:
One armed civillian could stop a mass shooting but is that person trained to respond? That's the concern.


Over on the US Police Misconduct page you can see that the "trained" people aren't all that hot themselves. :idea:


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:30 pm
 


Haven't the shootings all taken place in gun free zones?

I thought they had (at least for the most part).


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:36 pm
 


Robair Robair:
Haven't the shootings all taken place in gun free zones?

I thought they had (at least for the most part).


All of them have taken place in "Gun Free Zones".

Most notably there have not been any mass shootings at:

1. A gun show.

2. An NRA convention.

3. A police station.

4. A gun shop.

5. A shooting range.

Interestingly, and this flies in the face of illiberal logic: There have not been any mass shootings in precisely the places where gun control fanatics tell us there should be all sorts of "Wild West" mayhem...those places being the places where there are high concentrations of firearms in possession. :idea:


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:44 pm
 


Well...there were those two Muslims who thought they'd attack Texas.

They're the ones under the sheet.

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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Robair Robair:
Haven't the shootings all taken place in gun free zones?

I thought they had (at least for the most part).


All of them have taken place in "Gun Free Zones".

Most notably there have not been any mass shootings at:

1. A gun show.

2. An NRA convention.

3. A police station.

4. A gun shop.

5. A shooting range.

Interestingly, and this flies in the face of illiberal logic: There have not been any mass shootings in precisely the places where gun control fanatics tell us there should be all sorts of "Wild West" mayhem...those places being the places where there are high concentrations of firearms in possession. :idea:


1 Gun Show:Flashback To 2008: 8-Year-Old Killed While Shooting Uzi At Gun Fair
http://crooksandliars.com/2014/08/flash ... lled-while

3 Police Station:
Mark Essex’s campaign of terror against the New Orleans police climaxed on Jan. 7 in an 11-hour rampage at the Howard Johnson’s hotel on Loyola Avenue, where he killed seven people, including three police officers, and wounded eight.
http://www.nola.com/175years/index.ssf/ ... d_joh.html

4.Gun shop:
Owner Killed, Three Shot in Attempted Robbery at Gun Shop
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/own ... op-n283326

5. Shooting range:Ex-Navy sniper, another military vet killed at Texas gun range
http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/03/justice/t ... er-killed/

All very safe places, im sure...


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:12 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Robair Robair:
Haven't the shootings all taken place in gun free zones?

I thought they had (at least for the most part).


All of them have taken place in "Gun Free Zones".

Does that not render moot the question at the start of this thread?

Don't get me wrong, I think it should be harder to buy a gun in the United States. It's getting a little nuts down there.

But the question at the start of the thread is pointless given the gun free zones...


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:16 pm
 


Seeing as they end up shooting themselves, i doubt they are going to be deterred by being shot.


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