[andyt]

not me. eeeeeewwww.

[BeaverFever]

Here is the old vs new curriculum that the usual hystericals on the right are so worked up about.






And here is how the new curriculum compares to other provinces in Canada:

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...Note that many curricula suggest strategies for introducing concepts at an age-appropriate level, for example: a discussion of sexual abuse in a kindergarten class would likely be about what inappropriate touching is and the importance of reporting it....

The grade at which children are expected to know the names of all body parts:

Ontario: Grade 1
B.C.: Kindergarten
Alberta: Kindergarten
Saskatchewan: Grade 5 (possibly earlier)
Manitoba: Kindergarten
Quebec: By 5 years old
New Brunswick: Grade 6
PEI: Grade 6
Nova Scotia: Grade 3
Newfoundland and Labrador: Grade 4

The grade at which children are introduced to the concept of sexual orientation:

Ontario: Grade 3
B.C.: Grade 6
Alberta: Unclear
Saskatchewan: Grade 3
Manitoba: Unclear
Quebec: By 5 years old
New Brunswick: Grade 8
PEI: Grade 8
Nova Scotia: Grade 3
Newfoundland and Labrador: Grade 9 (may be mentioned earlier)

The grade at which children are introduced to the concept of gender identity:

Ontario: Grade 3
B.C.: Grade 6
Alberta: Unclear
Saskatchewan: Grade 1
Manitoba: Grade 5
Quebec: Between 8 and 11 years old
New Brunswick: Grade 6
PEI: Unclear
Nova Scotia: Grade 4
Newfoundland and Labrador: Unclear

The grade at which children are told about STIs and their prevention:

Ontario: Grade 7
B.C.: Grade 6
Alberta: Grade 6
Saskatchewan: Grade 6
Manitoba: Grade 7
Quebec: Between 12-17 years old
New Brunswick: Grade 9 and 10
PEI: Grade 8 (expected to understand abstinence in Grade 7)
Nova Scotia: Between Grades 5 and 7: HIV/AIDS mentioned in Grade 5, consequences of sex in Grade 6, contraceptive methods in Grade 7
Newfoundland and Labrador: Grade 7 (HIV/AIDS mentioned in Grade 5)

The grade at which children are told about Internet safety and/or sexting:

Ontario: Grade 4
B.C.: Grade 4
Alberta: Unclear
Saskatchewan: Grade 4
Manitoba: Unclear
Quebec: Unclear, but strong focus on safety/exploitation starting in kindergarten
New Brunswick: Unclear
PEI: Unclear
Nova Scotia: Grade 8
Newfoundland and Labrador: Unclear

The grade at which children are told about birth control:

Ontario: Grade 7
B.C.: Grade 6 (unclear)
Alberta: Grade 8
Saskatchewan: Grade 9
Manitoba: Grade 7
Quebec: Between 12 and 17 years old
New Brunswick: Grade 9 and 10
PEI: Grade 8 (expected to understand abstinence in Grade 7)
Nova Scotia: Grade 7
Newfoundland and Labrador: Grade 8

The grade at which children are expected to understand consent (healthy relationships in general are discussed earlier, or the two are blurred in many provinces):

Ontario: Grade 7 (some mention in Grade 2)
B.C.: Grade 8
Alberta: Grade 8
Saskatchewan: Grade 9
Manitoba: Grade 5
Quebec: Between 10-11 years old
New Brunswick: Grade 7, emphasized in Grade 9 and 10
PEI: Grade 9
Nova Scotia: Grade 7
Newfoundland and Labrador: Grade 8

The grade at which children are told about sexual abuse:

Ontario: Grade 4
B.C.: Kindergarten
Alberta: Grade 8
Saskatchewan: Grade 3
Manitoba: Unclear
Quebec: By 5 years old
New Brunswick: Grade 8
PEI: Grade 8
Nova Scotia: Grade 5
Newfoundland and Labrador: Grade 2

Note: Quebec does not have a formal dedicated sex ed curriculum, opting instead to integrate this instruction into other subjects. This approach has resulted in some criticism.

http://globalnews.ca/news/1847912/sexua ... ss-canada/

[uwish]

Sex...hum religion's perfect nemesis. Funny how all the gods man has created come from 'virgins' isn't it?? Trust the religious to pass comments on things they technically know nothing about, all the while betraying the trust of children in their charge in some of the most vile ways imaginable.

just yet another example of how religion poisons everything...

[BeaverFever]

uwish uwish:

Sex...hum religion's perfect nemesis.

Education is their other nemesis. So the two together as Sex Education, for them it's a 2-headed dragon. Reminds me of times they thought other enemies had teamed up, like Saddam Hussein and Bin Laden. Or ISIS and the Gay Pride movement

[ShepherdsDog]

Despite the glaring historical fact that it was religious orders and organizations that established the greatest centers of learning in the West.

[BeaverFever]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Despite the glaring historical fact that it was religious orders and organizations that established the greatest centers of learning in the West.

Is counting Bob Jones University or no?

[ShepherdsDog]

your alma mater?

[BeaverFever]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

your alma mater?

LMAO That's a right wing fundamentalist Christian school in the American South so odds are good that I didn't attend!

[ShepherdsDog]

So, in other words it doesn't fall into the category of great western centers of learning.

[BartSimpson]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Kids aren't being taught that.

Maybe. Maybe not.

Care to take a bet of a $100 donation to CKA that at least one of the things I mentioned WILL be taught in an Ontario public school no later than this time next year? If you're REALLY certain that I'm wrong we can make it $500.

If you lose I'll be generous and let you pay in CDN$ while I'll pay in US$.

I say this from past experience with public schools that once they start one of these very aggressive curriculums the practice of it is always far worse than what was initially proposed.

Looking at the concerns of the Ontario parents I'd say they're seeing the same things I've seen in California.

http://polpac.org/wp-content/uploads/20 ... Public.pdf

[BeaverFever]

Maybe I'll take that bet I like the CKA donation idea, it should be used more!

But I wonder:

1) What does "taught" mean? Demonstrated? Mentioned? Answering a question from a student? If just one teacher anywhere in the province says anything related to something on the list does that count?

2) How do we prove it hasn't been "taught?"

3)Your buddies at a local mosque were already caught circulating false info like claiming t the curriculum would require first graders to cross-dress in class and told how to perform anal sex, and that's just one easy example of how the anti side already has proven liars telling lies

[BeaverFever]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

So, in other words it doesn't fall into the category of great western centers of learning.

How about Jerry Falwells liberty university?

[ShepherdsDog]

Again, does it come to mind when thinking of great places of learning? You need to get out more.

[BeaverFever]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Again, does it come to mind when thinking of great places of learning? You need to get out more.

Oh so not the Republican definition then. Which ones are you referring to? The ones that are controlled by liberals like Oxford, Harvard, Princeton and the like?

[ShepherdsDog]

As far as I know Bart's the only Republican on here, and possibly MeganC. You said nothing about liberal or Republican in your original statement. You claimed religion and education were diametrically opposed.

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Education is their other nemesis.