[Zipperfish]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Interesting. In California the drought and warm weather (and absence of cloud cover) has led to record harvests in all sectors of agriculture - even in the nut sector which reduced the number of trees due to the drought.

California Drought Causes Estimated $1.84 Billion Agricultural Losses

yup.

[Zipperfish]

Thanos Thanos:

The asteroid strike would be worth just because it would put an end once and for all to this interminably dopey conversation.

I admit to a passion for arguing science. Would be nice to argue about the chances of nuclear fusion in the next 20 years or mining the asteroids instead of this one all the time.

[Thanos]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Thanos Thanos:

The asteroid strike would be worth just because it would put an end once and for all to this interminably dopey conversation.

I admit to a passion for arguing science. Would be nice to argue about the chances of nuclear fusion in the next 20 years or mining the asteroids instead of this one all the time.

I don't see much of a future for the human race or any of the other animals on this planet past the next two hundred years. That's how bad the damage that humans have caused, and keep causing, really is. Set aside climate change and talk about deforestation, fishing practices that are basically strip-mining all life out of the oceans, acceptance of smog levels in cities from Mexico to Beijing to Los Angeles where thousands of people in those places die every year just from bad air quality, poaching running rampant to the point where the most magnificent and special animals on the earth will be exterminated all to please the blood-lust of psychotic American trophy hunters or to have their bodies looted so some POS in China can get a hard-on using "traditional medicine". This and a thousand other incipient disasters that are looming, and that are going to bite hard the day they arrive.

My time on this planet will be done soon, sometime in the next several decades, so I'll no longer be part of the equation of human indifference destroying the only home we have. All I can say is that I take no pride in being human. Peel back the very thin veneer of civilization and we're basically nothing but resource consumers and shit dispensers. The planet will survive, and renew itself. It's done it multiple times in the past and will do it multiple times in the future. Humans won't be here to see it though. And humans really don't deserve to be here to see it either. Not when the good intentions of the few are invariably wiped out by the indifference and stupidity of the overall herd.

I remember when the History channel had that Life After People series on TV. What struck me the most was the segment that went, "one year after people, all across the planet, there has been an explosion of life....", in that it would take the literal disappearance of the human race for the other creatures on this planet to thrive again. Summed it up for me right there. That's all the human race is and that's all the human race will ever be, just destroyers of everything we ever touch.

[BartSimpson]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Interesting. In California the drought and warm weather (and absence of cloud cover) has led to record harvests in all sectors of agriculture - even in the nut sector which reduced the number of trees due to the drought.

California Drought Causes Estimated $1.84 Billion Agricultural Losses

yup.

Yup.

https://www.newsreview.com/sacramento/c ... d=18026315

$1:

While winter chill hours are required by many temperate fruit trees—such as most stone fruits—in order to produce large, healthy crops, George says the absence of cold this year actually resulted in a better crop: The fruits were fewer, but bigger.

“It made it easier for me,” he said. “I was harvesting bigger fruit and less of them. If your crop is too big you get a bunch of marbles.”

Schoener, who grows grapes in the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta region for his Vacaville-based winery The Scholium Project, may also be enjoying a sweet spot of climate change.

While global warming is expected to make areas currently known for good wine unsuitable for grape growing in the future, the heat has allowed Schoener to produce wine with lower alcohol levels than usual. This is because high temperatures in recent years have accelerated summer maturation of his fruit, making it possible to harvest early—and in doing so produce full-flavored wine with less alcohol, an increasingly marketable quality in the wine business.

For Phil Rhodes, a farmer in Visalia, the unusually warm year has produced one of his best fig crops in memory. He has more fruit than usual, and the figs are fatter and sweeter.

True, not all crops are doing well, but overall the state is now looking at unexpected windfalls in the agricultural sector.

[Lemmy]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

True, not all crops are doing well, but overall the state is now looking at unexpected windfalls in the agricultural sector.

Too broad a statement to make any sense. Some agricultural products have elastic demand, some inelastic. For some products, a "windfall" comes from a good harvest, for others a bad harvest makes for better business. Depends entirely on elasticity. But overall, your state's agricultural industry is trending towards fucked.

[BartSimpson]

Lemmy Lemmy:

But overall, your state's agricultural industry is trending towards fucked.

All of Canada is expected to do $14 billion in agricultural business this year. (per StatsCan)

California is expected to do $44.7 billion in agricultural business this year. (Forbes)

If we're fucked then you folks should try it and see how it works.

[Jabberwalker]

July 2015 was the hottest month on modern record



Thanks, Mulcair.

[Lemmy]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

All of Canada is expected to do $14 billion in agricultural business this year. (per StatsCan)

California is expected to do $44.7 billion in agricultural business this year. (Forbes)

If we're fucked then you folks should try it and see how it works.

I said "trending", didn't I? But, avoiding the temptation to address your bait & switch and bullshit numbers, what about this?

$1:

July's average temperature was 16.6 Celsius (61.86 degrees Fahrenheit), beating the previous global mark set in 1998 and 2010 by 0.08 C

Have you anything to say about that? If not, we're done here, aren't we?

[herbie]

Would it have anything to do with thse $4.49/lb peaches and $10 watermelons?

[bootlegga]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

In Sacramento we're having a cooler-than-usual summer even though we've had consistently warm temps.

And in Edmonton, we've had more 30+ days than in the past five years combined:



According to the Weather Network, the average temperature since June 1 is nearly 3 degrees hotter than the seasonal average (noted on my daily forecast - no pic):

Weather does NOT equal climate...

[karra]

And then there's reality...

[DrCaleb]

bootlegga bootlegga:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

In Sacramento we're having a cooler-than-usual summer even though we've had consistently warm temps.

And in Edmonton, we've had more 30+ days than in the past five years combined:



According to the Weather Network, the average temperature since June 1 is nearly 3 degrees hotter than the seasonal average (noted on my daily forecast - no pic):

Weather does NOT equal climate...

Germany had it's highest recorded temperature ever in July. India and Pakistan saw heatwaves that killed thousands. The +4c increase in ocean temperature off BC has produced a toxic disease in fresh oysters.

And we have yet to hear 'the world has recorded it's fist month of below average temperatures . . .'.

The trend is consistent, and in one direction only.