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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:04 pm
 


sandorski sandorski:
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....and inspections can be delayed long enough for stuff to be removed.

This is cloud cuckoo land at it's best.


Satellites will be watching for any significant activity.


Don't you think the Iranians already know this and have come up with significant ways to hide their activities?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:08 pm
 


PluggyRug PluggyRug:
sandorski sandorski:
PluggyRug PluggyRug:
....and inspections can be delayed long enough for stuff to be removed.

This is cloud cuckoo land at it's best.


Satellites will be watching for any significant activity.


Don't you think the Iranians already know this and have come up with significant ways to hide their activities?


What's your solution? It seems to me that trying to negotiate a peaceful agreement would be the first avenue.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:13 pm
 


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What's your solution? It seems to me that trying to negotiate a peaceful agreement would be the first avenue.


Well yes. Problem is, this agreement has too many holes.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:31 pm
 


Canada to keep sanctions against Iran despite nuclear deal

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Canada will keep its sanctions in place – at least for now – despite the nuclear agreement Iran has reached with major world powers.

Foreign Affairs Minister Rob Nicholson issued a statement saying that Canada “will continue to judge Iran by its actions not its words,” and that the government in Ottawa will examine the agreement carefully before making any policy changes.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:38 pm
 


PluggyRug PluggyRug:
Zipperfish Zipperfish:


What's your solution? It seems to me that trying to negotiate a peaceful agreement would be the first avenue.


Well yes. Problem is, this agreement has too many holes.



Here's a good one on that.

The Truth About 6 of Obama’s Iran Deal Claims

(Pssst... :wink: Check out # 6.)


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:45 pm
 


PluggyRug PluggyRug:
Zipperfish Zipperfish:


What's your solution? It seems to me that trying to negotiate a peaceful agreement would be the first avenue.


Well yes. Problem is, this agreement has too many holes.


war war war is better than jaw jaw jaw - we all know that.

You've actually read the agreement? What are some of the holes?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:12 pm
 


Who said anything about war? Anyways read N_F's post above.

A gaping hole is no snap inspections.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:28 pm
 


PluggyRug PluggyRug:
sandorski sandorski:
PluggyRug PluggyRug:
....and inspections can be delayed long enough for stuff to be removed.

This is cloud cuckoo land at it's best.


Satellites will be watching for any significant activity.


Don't you think the Iranians already know this and have come up with significant ways to hide their activities?


Like?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:37 pm
 


PluggyRug PluggyRug:
Who said anything about war?


If not diplomacy, what's the other option?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:28 pm
 


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:34 pm
 


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Who said anything about war?


If not diplomacy, what's the other option?


Trying to be diplomatic with Iran is like trying to juggle sawdust. Keep the sanctions in place until they realise nuclear weapons are not the answer.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:39 pm
 


sandorski sandorski:


Like?


Hayzeus man have you no imagination,or are you just being obtuse for the sake of it.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:21 pm
 


Arms dealers set to profit from end to Iran embargo

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The phased lifting of the arms embargo on Iran that will accompany Tuesday's nuclear deal will be a boon to arms dealers and industrial exporters across the world.
Under the broader sanctions programme, offensive weapons and a whole range of kit - some obvious like military aircraft but some much more general such as types of computer software - were banned from sale to Tehran.

Russia and China are likely to be the two big beneficiaries as Iran looks to modernise its air force, which is particularly antiquated, and sharpen its already highly developed domestic missile production system.

Western arms companies such as British Aerospace and Lockheed Martin may be prevented from exporting to Iran, even after the deal, and would probably in any case not be first choice for a country which is a strategic ally of Russia and China.
But other companies may be able to sell items from the banned list which are not overtly military but have military use - from high grade metal alloys that can give extra range to missiles to drone technology and even high capacity computer equipment...


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:34 pm
 


I don't trust the Iranians.

I don't have faith in Obongo, his foreign policy has been one disaster after another.


It does nothing to address Iran as a sponsor of terrorism,
and if for example no snap inspections, then there is nothing of worth in the deal.

It will spark a new arms race in the ME, as other countries will now
want nukes even more.

Stupid all the way around.


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