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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:17 am
 


Zipperfish Zipperfish:
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

But no matter how many times you post it, and no matter scary it's been manipulated to look it still only says 1 degree of warming over a century or so. And on this side of the debate we still say, "so what?"


It's not supposed to be scary. It's a temperature graph based on the instrumental record. It is what it is.

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Although that may change for you guys now.Apparently it is now OK to openly and dramatically simply imagine old years becoming cooler and recent years becoming warmer. It will then become true...amongst a small group at least. Perhaps you can make that graph say 2 degrees soon.


See what I mean? One moment you say the temperature has gone up 1 degree in a century, and in the very next pararaph you imply the data is all fudged.


No I don't see what you mean? The rise shown previously of 1 degree last century is agreed upon. Manipulating it or future global temperatures higher artificially, as is being attempted in this new preparation for the upcoming climate conference is not.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:23 am
 


Thanos Thanos:
Freemasons are running the country!

Yes. We are. :wink:


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:31 am
 


Regina Regina:
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Regina Regina:
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I have no doubt many of your thoughts and sentences start with "I wonder........"


You would be correct. In fact "I wonder" why yours don't? :wink:

Research and understanding of one's own educational limitations would be the best place to start for you. Not "I wonder" what youtube and blog website cut and pastes have to say.


Yeah, and I bet if I study real hard I can reach a point where I can rely on personal attack to make my point, just like you do, right? Then can I join your "Kool Kidz clever club?" :P

Look, these guys smeared land surface temperatures over the arctic ice. Then they simply added warmth to buoy temperatures they prefered in spite of the fact there is nothing they notice now that hasn't been noticed before and dealt with by other scientists.

They just came in before an upcoming climate conference and made old temperatures coolers, then more recent temperatures warmer to magically make an inconvenient pause in global temperature rising conveniently disappear.

You don't have to be a scientist to listen to what some scientists are saying who oppose this policy and agree with them.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:33 am
 


N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

No I don't see what you mean? The rise shown previously of 1 degree last century is agreed upon. Manipulating it or future global temperatures higher artificially, as is being attempted in this new preparation for the upcoming climate conference is not.


I don't see how it is "agreed upon." If the data are unreliable--as you are saying--then you can't agree on anything.. If you agree that the temperature has risen, then you are saying the data are, to some extent, reliable.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:35 am
 


Regina Regina:
I doubt you've studied hard for much in school. Certainly not science anyway.


By all means offer up your superior scientific knowledge. I'd love to hear something from you that wasn't a personal insult. Seriously. Can you actually do that?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:37 am
 


Regina Regina:
I doubt you've studied hard for much in school. Certainly not science anyway.


Glenn Beck University. Graduated magna cum laude majoring in doubling-down. :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:38 am
 


N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
By all means offer up your superior scientific knowledge. I'd love to hear something from you that wasn't a personal insult. Seriously. Can you actually do that?

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
Actual, for real, professor from the University of Guelph,

Pot meet kettle.


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Freemasons are running the country!

Yes. We are. :wink:


I admire you guys for the way you've successfully kept that Jack The Ripper cover-up going strong for over 125 years. :twisted:


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Thanos Thanos:
Lemmy Lemmy:
Thanos Thanos:
Freemasons are running the country!

Yes. We are. :wink:


I admire you guys for the way you've successfully kept that Jack The Ripper cover-up going strong for over 125 years. :twisted:

I figured you'd especially like how we blamed the whole damn thing on the Juwes! :lol:


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Lo, there shall come a banning! :twisted:

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:42 am
 


Zipperfish Zipperfish:
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

No I don't see what you mean? The rise shown previously of 1 degree last century is agreed upon. Manipulating it or future global temperatures higher artificially, as is being attempted in this new preparation for the upcoming climate conference is not.


I don't see how it is "agreed upon." If the data are unreliable--as you are saying--then you can't agree on anything.. If you agree that the temperature has risen, then you are saying the data are, to some extent, reliable.


It was generally agreed upon as the best we had based on what was available. Admittedly that wasn't much, however arbitrary changes that conflict with previous adjustments dealing with known issues to achieve a preconceived outcome of making an inconvenient fact disappear are not.

The data has been fudged for this press release. There's no way around that.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:48 am
 


Lemmy Lemmy:
I figured you'd especially like how we blamed the whole damn thing on the Juwes! :lol:


Everyone knows the Freemasons were conquered by the Shriners on Oct 4, 1921.


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Ohh! A comic! Well, I'm convinced!


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:19 pm
 


Zipperfish Zipperfish:
Lemmy Lemmy:
I figured you'd especially like how we blamed the whole damn thing on the Juwes! :lol:


Everyone knows the Freemasons were conquered by the Shriners on Oct 4, 1921.


You have to be a Mason before you become a Shriner.


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