[CDN_PATRIOT]

martin14 martin14:

Close the reserves, invite these people to become normal Canadian citizens.

If they don't do it now, in 20 years it will be too late.

I've been saying this for years. Let them integrate with the rest of us, pay their taxes, and so on. That way, the playing field becomes level.

-J.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Lemmy Lemmy:

You're putting words in my mouth. I just said that it costs Canadians $35/yr for the CBC, which is peanuts.

Nice try Lemmy. You said it isn't cheaper. Not my fault you edited your post while I was responding to it.

[Zipperfish]

I'm usually as quick as the next guy to jump on Harper, but this is a major issue and I wouldn't call failure to respond immediately, the same day, as "silence."

I am wholly in favour of working with our First Nations people, and acknowledging the horrors of Canada's residential school policy. But I think the term "cultural genocide" will turn people off and cause this whole thing to fail. In essence, the writer of that report just called Canadians a bunch of Nazis. That is not the way to reconciliation.

[OnTheIce]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

I am wholly in favour of working with our First Nations people, and acknowledging the horrors of Canada's residential school policy. But I think the term "cultural genocide" will turn people off and cause this whole thing to fail. In essence, the writer of that report just called Canadians a bunch of Nazis. That is not the way to reconciliation.

As a Nation, we fucked up with our Native people. We know that and have apologized. Repeatedly.

Now that this report is complete, what's next? We already knew the truth, we already have apologized as a Nation but where do we go from here?

While all 'warm and fuzzy' to make apologize and finish reports, it does nothing to address the core issues on reserves.

Until Natives themselves are willing to step back and look at their situation and specifically the Indian Act, we'll be in the same situation 50 years from now.

[martin14]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

As a Nation, we fucked up with our Native people. We know that and have apologized. Repeatedly.

Now that this report is complete, what's next? We already knew the truth, we already have apologized as a Nation but where do we go from here?

You already know the answer.

The answer is mo' money.

Mo' money now, mo' money later, mo' money forever.


Sure more money will solve all the problems.


Even more money for the CBC.

[ShepherdsDog]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

I'm usually as quick as the next guy to jump on Harper, but this is a major issue and I wouldn't call failure to respond immediately, the same day, as "silence."

I am wholly in favour of working with our First Nations people, and acknowledging the horrors of Canada's residential school policy. But I think the term "cultural genocide" will turn people off and cause this whole thing to fail. In essence, the writer of that report just called Canadians a bunch of Nazis. That is not the way to reconciliation.

The problematic part of 'cultural genocide' is that Russians, Germans, Poles, Ukrainians and every other ethnicity that came to Canada can now make this claim. Hell, even the Scots, Irish and Welsh can do the same in the UK can do it. All of these ethnicities were anglicized by our immigration and education systems. As recent as my mom's generation(she was born in 46) Ukrainian, Polish, German and Russian kids were punished(physically and through shaming) for speaking their native tongues in school.

The intention was to make everyone else the same regardless of background. A similar language and culture shared by all was seen as something that would strengthen the nation and its citizens, not create the divisions we see today.

A lesson that needs to be learned by all is that you'll never get ahead if you're always trying to get even.

[N_Fiddledog]

Brian Lilley counter-attacks from the partisan divide on this issue.

[Zipperfish]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

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A lesson that needs to be learned by all is that you'll never get ahead if you're always trying to get even.

Love it!!!!

[ShepherdsDog]

The language recommendation.....we have Cree offered at the school rather than French. There is absolutely zero interest from the kids in learning that part of their heritage. Two years in a row the kid who won the award for most progress in Cree has been my kid. A group of Elders asked the students simple Q&A in Cree and then they had to recite a short story in Cree and answer a few questions. He was the only one able to complete all three tasks, although he did answer a couple of the story questions in English. Although he is nowhere close to being fluent in Cree, he is at least trying. This is a kid who is already fluent(speaks, reads and writes) in English and Mandarin(with a smattering of Taiwanese/Fujianese).

[herbie]

My kids wanted to take Carrier instead of French. I told them NO. They learned curse in Carrier from friends. For them, what good is a language no one speaks 100 miles away?