[BartSimpson]

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

Any plans to divert the Columbia southward so that Californians can have nice green lawns and huge swimming pools out in the desert?

http://articles.latimes.com/1990-05-04/ ... iver-water

$1:

County Supervisor Kenneth Hahn proposed a big solution Thursday to Los Angeles' big water problem--digging aqueducts that would carry water to California from the Columbia River in the Pacific Northwest and the Snake River in Idaho.

The waterways not only would lick the drought, Hahn said, but also would provide jobs to thousands of aerospace workers laid off because of defense cuts.

"We've had proposals to tow icebergs, too," commented Maury Roos, chief hydrologist for the state Department of Water Resources. "This is a little more serious than that."

Roos said Hahn's proposal--which the supervisor has floated during previous water crises--is technically feasible, but is "frightfully expensive" and faces seemingly insurmountable environmental and political obstacles.

This proposal has come up in talks several times since 1990 and I expect LA will eventually pursue it in Congress.

[Jabberwalker]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

Any plans to divert the Columbia southward so that Californians can have nice green lawns and huge swimming pools out in the desert?

http://articles.latimes.com/1990-05-04/ ... iver-water

$1:

County Supervisor Kenneth Hahn proposed a big solution Thursday to Los Angeles' big water problem--digging aqueducts that would carry water to California from the Columbia River in the Pacific Northwest and the Snake River in Idaho.

The waterways not only would lick the drought, Hahn said, but also would provide jobs to thousands of aerospace workers laid off because of defense cuts.

"We've had proposals to tow icebergs, too," commented Maury Roos, chief hydrologist for the state Department of Water Resources. "This is a little more serious than that."

Roos said Hahn's proposal--which the supervisor has floated during previous water crises--is technically feasible, but is "frightfully expensive" and faces seemingly insurmountable environmental and political obstacles.

This proposal has come up in talks several times since 1990 and I expect LA will eventually pursue it in Congress.

As it says on the billboards:

"Drink Canada Dry".

[Canadian_Mind]

raydan raydan:

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

raydan raydan:

Why wouldn't they build their own desalinization plants?

I'm going to guess that cost is a significant factor. I'd also imagine they are energy intensive. Not to mention ruining the scenery.

What I meant is why would they buy desalinated water from us, as you suggested, when they could do it themselves?

In many cases, if a product is already available, it's easier to just buy it than develop an equivilent yourself.

[andyt]

Califorina are the ones building the desalinization plants, not us. Do we really want to invest huge bucks in this infrastructure, when as the article pointed out, as soon as it rains a bit it's far cheaper to use that water, and desalinization plants already built in the area were decommissioned.

I think you're a bit out to lunch on this one.

[Canadian_Mind]

Given the costs, right now I'd agree. But if Global climate change is real, we will soon be living on a world where desalinisation plants are the most economical solution for many regions water needs.

[fifeboy]

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

Given the costs, right now I'd agree. But if Global climate change is real, we will soon be living on a world where desalinisation plants are the most economical solution for many regions water needs.

Enter the Woofer

[andyt]

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

Given the costs, right now I'd agree. But if Global climate change is real, we will soon be living on a world where desalinisation plants are the most economical solution for many regions water needs.

It would still make sense to build those plants as close to where the water is needed as possible. Not thousands of kilometers away.

Funny if we use carbon fuels to power desalinization needed because of global warming. Bit of a mugs game, that.

[N_Fiddledog]

fifeboy fifeboy:

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

Given the costs, right now I'd agree. But if Global climate change is real, we will soon be living on a world where desalinisation plants are the most economical solution for many regions water needs.

Enter the Woofer

You just be a good boy, and I won't have to ask you uncomfortable questions, like what's one of the big reasons they use to explain the disappearance of the Mayan civilization, why did Hollywood vote to join LA, and when did the Jack Nicholson movie Chinatown come out. (The Maguffin is water rights in dry 1940s LA).

I would expect old time BC boys to know better than to bring up the issue, because we've been hearing stories about how one day LA is going to come after our water since long before anybody knew who Al Gore was.

[herbie]

Let's go for a grant to build a solar powered desalinization plant in Kitimat!!!! YAY!!!
Prince Rupert! Vancouver!
Or just send a bucket and we'll put out on the 'sundeck'....

[Jabberwalker]

You figure that the rains are going to stop along the B.C. coast?

You should be building flipping ark, not a desalination plant!

[Canadian_Mind]

andyt andyt:

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

Given the costs, right now I'd agree. But if Global climate change is real, we will soon be living on a world where desalinisation plants are the most economical solution for many regions water needs.

It would still make sense to build those plants as close to where the water is needed as possible. Not thousands of kilometers away.

Funny if we use carbon fuels to power desalinization needed because of global warming. Bit of a mugs game, that.

Part of why I suggested up north. Huge amounts of room for solar, wind, and tidal energy. I think starting up desalinisation plants for the sake of saving the lakes and rivers is rather stupid if we use coal and natural gas to power them. If you went with the solar option you would need a huge amount of space to fulfill the water requirements. Space they don't have on the California coast, but we do have up north.

[fifeboy]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

fifeboy fifeboy:

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

Given the costs, right now I'd agree. But if Global climate change is real, we will soon be living on a world where desalinisation plants are the most economical solution for many regions water needs.

Enter the Woofer

You just be a good boy, and I won't have to ask you uncomfortable questions, like what's one of the big reasons they use to explain the disappearance of the Mayan civilization, why did Hollywood vote to join LA, and when did the Jack Nicholson movie Chinatown come out. (The Maguffin is water rights in dry 1940s LA).

I would expect old time BC boys to know better than to bring up the issue, because we've been hearing stories about how one day LA is going to come after our water since long before anybody knew who Al Gore was.

Why do I spend good money on Netflix when free amusements are available

[N_Fiddledog]

fifeboy fifeboy:

Why do I spend good money on Netflix when free amusements are available

I don't know. More money than brains maybe. Is it a trick question or something?

[herbie]

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

You figure that the rains are going to stop along the B.C. coast?

You should be building flipping ark, not a desalination plant!

One day trudging to school someone commented it had rained for 45 days and 45 nights, no one else in Vancouver had noticed.
Visiting Prince Rupert and I forgot my jacket back at the motel. Tourists would ask me for directions, thought I was a local....

[fifeboy]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

fifeboy fifeboy:

Why do I spend good money on Netflix when free amusements are available

I don't know. More money that brains maybe. Is it a trick question or something?

I think you missed Riders of Destiny. Just a bit off topic, but gotta love The Duke