[DrCaleb]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

If it's about the safety of the school, it's not about sex. If we don't want kids strip searched by school officials, then let's remove the right to do so, and relive them of the responsibility for making their schools safe.

And the legislation says that they may not touch the student in any way, just their clothes.

Well, that's simple then, I will tell my kids to refuse to comply, unless there is a police officer of the same sex directing them. I have no problem with that.

It may be about safety for most of the teachers. For some it will be about power and sex.

Sounds like a reasonable precaution. I'd do pretty much the same, but I'd change that from police officer to me being present. If my child were taking something to school that required them to be strip searched, it's better if there are fewer witnesses.

[Zipperfish]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Sounds like a reasonable precaution. I'd do pretty much the same, but I'd change that from police officer to me being present. If my child were taking something to school that required them to be strip searched, it's better if there are fewer witnesses.

yes, good point. That would be ideal.

[Xort]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

That's my point though. Some cop will note it in their journal "Jane Smith - suspicion of drug possession, suspicion of intent to distribute" and that will follow Jane Smith for the rest of her life.

It doesn't matter, any interaction you have with the police or courts can show up.

For example, lets say you are a nurse and notice injuries that you suspect might be from abuse. If you tell the police that you have now 'been involved in an active police investigation'.

Maybe you parked your car between two cars of drug dealers. Now you have been investigated in relation to drug and gang activity.

The problem isn't calling to police to search a student, that's the correct action although I doubt the police will have probable cause to conduct a legal search and go forward with it. The problem are our laws that govern non conviction records and how police forces share it with inquirers.

[Zipperfish]

The story is developing....

Strip-searched student's family considers suing school

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The mother said she was particularly upset about not being called before — or after — her daughter was strip searched.

She said her daughter’s requests to call home were twice denied.

interesting.. Certainly plays to the sexual assault angle.

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Quebec Education Minister Yves Bolduc initially defended the school and existing policy around strip searching students.

After taking heat from the public, however, he altered his stance on the topic, and said he was concerned by the turn of events.


​Bolduc said Wednesday the government has asked an independent person from outside the school board to look into what happened.

...and the cracks appear.

[Strutz]

I have a couple of issues with this.

First of all

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The girl told the Journal that she asked to phone her mother before the search but was told she was not permitted.

Why would they not be permitted to call a parent beforehand? They should be allowed to have a parent present before being strip searched by school officials.

Also

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a 15-year-old female student at the Neufchatel High School in Quebec City was strip-searched last week after school officials suspected she was selling drugs.

So, did they find any on her? The article does not say. If they found nothing on her then they subjected her to a humiliating and embarrassing process unnecessarily.

I don't feel that it's up to school officials to go this far in searching a student. Checking contents of a locker or purse/backpack is one thing, putting them in this vulnerable a position is another.

[Zipperfish]

Strutz Strutz:

So, did they find any on her?

They found nothing. Clearly we need to give teachers the right to cavity search.

[Tyler_1]

I probably would have quit school if they had started doing that.