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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 3:49 pm
 


It's just collateral damage, but at least those kids were kept safe from being shot by criminal black people.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 3:52 pm
 


Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:
Why would I need to know them? The only dangerous threat that has been made to me ever by an armed anybody was by some old PTSD case who should have known the law better.

But you profess to know what the NRA supports and doesn't support. That, and your known dislike of the US, makes you look like an idiot, again. :roll:


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:27 pm
 


andyt andyt:
New Analysis of One Year of Unintentional Child Gun Deaths in the U.S. Finds Nearly Two Children Killed Every Week, More Than 60 Percent Higher Than Federal Data Reflect

http://momsdemandaction.org/in-the-news ... a-reflect/


Check the study that claim was based on;

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Data compiled by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) indicate that 311 children age 14 and under were killed in unintentional shootings between 2007 and 2011 — an average of 62 per year.11 And an estimated 660 children are hospitalized each year with non-fatal, unintentional firearm injuries. 12 But public health research and investigative reporting suggest that the actual total of unintentional child firearm deaths is even higher. When a young child perpetrates a shooting their intent may be difficult to determine, and state coroners and medical examiners — who are responsible for classifying and counting gun deaths before submitting them to the CDC — tend to err towards classifying these as homicides.


The size of the balls needed to claim the CDC doesn't know it's ass from a hole in the ground are impressive.

Firearm deaths for children, or any group as so small as to be effectively pointless to try and lower.

Link for the leading causes of deaths by age.
http://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/pdf/l ... 2012-a.pdf

Accidental firearm deaths are the 10th most likely cause for ages 10-14, and don't even place for any other age group.

Poisoning, suffocation, drowning and fire/burns are all more likely to cause death than firearms. Maybe these Moms that demand action should fund nation wide swimming training if they actually cared about saving lives rather than pushing political agendas.

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Two kids a week (double the reported rate) killed out of a nation of 330 million with well over 100 million firearms and over 40% of homes having a firearm is nothing.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:29 pm
 


Xort Xort:

Two kids a week (double the reported rate) killed out of a nation of 330 million with well over 100 million firearms and over 40% of homes having a firearm is nothing.



andyt andyt:
It's just collateral damage, but at least those kids were kept safe from being shot by criminal black people.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:13 pm
 


Mom's Demand Action are known liars.

They're a Bloomberg front group. Shannon Watts, the group's head, is a PR exec.

Here's her nemesis, Dana Loesch confronting her on her lies, and asking why she has "armed security if she's trying to disarm other mothers."

Dana gets roughed up a bit by Shannon's "armed" security, but she still seems to be having fun. :lol:



And this is the group whose claims we are asked to find more credible than the official Data. Yeah, right Andy. I'll get right on that one.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:02 pm
 


Picking your willnots again, are yah? So if the CDC is right, why worry, right?


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The .45-caliber pistol that killed Lucas Heagren, 3, on Memorial Day last year at his Ohio home had been temporarily hidden under the couch by his father. But Lucas found it and shot himself through the right eye. “It’s bad,” his mother told the 911 dispatcher. “It’s really bad.”

A few days later in Georgia, Cassie Culpepper, 11, was riding in the back of a pickup with her 12-year-old brother and two other children. Her brother started playing with a pistol his father had lent him to scare coyotes. Believing he had removed all the bullets, he pointed the pistol at his sister and squeezed the trigger. It fired, and blood poured from Cassie’s mouth.

Just a few weeks earlier, in Houston, a group of youths found a Glock pistol in an apartment closet while searching for snack money. A 15-year-old boy was handling the gun when it went off. Alex Whitfield, who had just turned 11, was struck. A relative found the bullet in his ashes from the funeral home.

A New York Times review of hundreds of child firearm deaths found that accidental shootings occurred roughly twice as often as the records indicate, because of idiosyncrasies in how such deaths are classified by the authorities. The killings of Lucas, Cassie and Alex, for instance, were not recorded as accidents. Nor were more than half of the 259 accidental firearm deaths of children under age 15 identified by The Times in eight states where records were available.

As a result, scores of accidental killings are not reflected in the official statistics that have framed the debate over how to protect children from guns.

The National Rifle Association cited the lower official numbers this year in a fact sheet opposing “safe storage” laws, saying children were more likely to be killed by falls, poisoning or environmental factors — an incorrect assertion if the actual number of accidental firearm deaths is significantly higher.

Because of maneuvering in Congress by the gun lobby and its allies, firearms have also been exempted from regulation by the Consumer Product Safety Commission since its inception.

The rifle association’s lobbying arm recently posted on its Web site a claim that adult criminals who mishandle firearms — as opposed to law-abiding gun owners — are responsible for most fatal accidents involving children. But The Times’s review found that a vast majority of cases revolved around children’s access to firearms, with the shooting either self-inflicted or done by another child.

The undercount stems from the peculiarities by which medical examiners and coroners make their “manner of death” rulings. These pronouncements, along with other information entered on death certificates, are the basis for the nation’s mortality statistics, which are assembled by the National Center for Health Statistics, a division of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Choosing among five options — homicide, accidental, suicide, natural or undetermined — most medical examiners and coroners simply call any death in which one person shoots another a homicide.

“A homicide just means they died at the hands of another,” said Dr. Randy L. Hanzlick, the chief medical examiner for Fulton County, Ga. “It doesn’t really connote there’s an intent to kill.”

These rulings can be wildly inconsistent.

In Bexar County, Tex., for example, the medical examiner’s office issued a finding of homicide in the death of William Reddick, a 9-month-old who was accidentally killed on May 17, 1999, when his 2-year-old brother opened a dresser drawer while in the crib with him, grabbed a pistol and pulled the trigger.

But the next year, when Kyle Bedford, 2, was killed by his 5-year-old brother, who had found a gun on a closet shelf, the same office classified the death as an accident.



http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/29/us/ch ... d=all&_r=0


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:07 pm
 


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Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:
Why would I need to know them? The only dangerous threat that has been made to me ever by an armed anybody was by some old PTSD case who should have known the law better.

But you profess to know what the NRA supports and doesn't support. That, and your known dislike of the US, makes you look like an idiot, again. :roll:

So, how's the treatment going?


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:26 pm
 


andyt andyt:
...A relative found the bullet in his ashes from the funeral home...


Sure he did.


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