[grainfedprairieboy]

Thanos Thanos:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

The Americans are going to go absolutely apeshit now. FatherHomeland security will use this event to further curtail civil liberties is my bet. This guy is no different than some nutball who mows down fellow postal workers, moviegoers, or primary students.

Maybe not. Americans actually don't do much of anything when someone mows down fellow workers, moviegoers, or primary students.

Sure they do....they defend the rights of future psychopaths to do the same thing.

[Jabberwalker]

It's in their Constitution. Just mix the "Pursuit of Happiness" part with the Second Amendment and you get "do whatever foul deeds it takes to make you happy".

[MeganC]

Our news down here said nothing about the killer being a Muslim! Thank you CKA!

[Delwin]

No worries, if there is a single Muslim jaywalker these guys will happily point him out for you and extrapolate the verse from the Koran that made him do it. Then they'll explain how the Christian jaywalkers are acting on free will.

[N_Fiddledog]

Not to worry Del. Just to be fair, here ya go...

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In the midst of seeking asylum to practice his religion, Nolen was brutally assaulted by a racist white man with a questionably legal gun, and prevented the free exercise thereof his religion. This is the thanks that Muslims get for having the courage to practice pacifism in America.

Al Sharpton is calling for an investigation into the incident; citing the fact that the black victim only had a knife, while the white shooter had a gun. It raises the question of why excessive firepower was used against a man who clearly posed no threat to the community. Sharpton demands to know why the victim was racially profiled for practicing his religion. He calls the attack "Worshiping while black."

In addition, there are calls from the victim's factory union into why the victim was fired from his job. The union insists that if the victim had been paid fair wages, that the victim would not have been forced to return to the factory after being unfairly terminated.

The union also states that if a prayer room facing towards Mecca had been installed in the factory, and the victim had been offered more breaks on which to say his prayers, the victim may not have felt the need to express his feelings towards the infidels.

Additional grievances include the serving of pork products in the cafeteria and the existence of female employees.

Nolen is described by his friends as a "gentle giant" who would never hurt a fly. A proud Muslim-American, Nolen volunteers as coach for the local youth baseball team, and spends two mornings a week serving soup to the homeless. Nolen is a productive member of the community, whose contributions will be sorely missed, while he recovers from his wounds.

When he is released from the hospital, Nolen's attorney states that he will explore all options including lawsuits against the perpetrator, for violating Nolen's civil right to religious practice.

We all know that George W. Bush is the biggest liar the presidency has ever seen, but there is one time when he told the truth: When he correctly referred to Islam as the "Religion of Peace."

John Kerry said, “The real face of Islam is a peaceful religion based on the dignity of all human beings.” It's so frustrating how the real face of Islam keeps trying to appear, but white racists gunning down black Muslims repeatedly thwart the real face of Islam.

We can also thank President Obama for his tireless contributions towards the proliferation of Islam in America, with multiple accolades like, “These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.”

Hopefully the victim will make a complete recovery and can continue his peaceful Islamic evangelism, unencumbered, for the sake of the dignity of all human beings.

OK, now that was from the pretend Communist site People's Cube.

http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/ ... 14963.html

Those of us dealing with reality call it satire, but you can feel free to pretend you're back at Salon.com if you like.

[herbie]

The Vincent Price in me is thinking
Cut off their head with a knife? In a work setting? Lopit off in folding ladder. With a giant paper cutter. Stamp it off in a press like in The Fly. Shove it in a blast furnace or a vat of boiling oil. It may be fundamental, but its not art!

[N_Fiddledog]

Lots of good pics of Alton from his facebook page, posted at the Daily Mail.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ebook.html

For example:




This, from the Mail, would also be interesting if it turns out to be true.

"Alton Alexander Nolen, 30, who converted to Islam during a recent stint in prison"

[Delwin]

No he did not convert in prison. He was released from prison in march 2013. His facebook page posts have gone from Jesus and football to Radical Hatred within the last 6 months.

edit: Sorry that is incorrect as reported by CNN

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video ... e.cnn.html

His first facebook reference to Islam comes shortly after his release on April 28, 2013.

$1:

Jst A Headz Up This World Is Sitting On Thin Ice...Jst Knw Dat Everything Allah(SAW)Has Created He Can Put To An End Within A Trillion Of A Second...There U Go

So it is possible. He also references this site the week later:
Salat.com

So there is also a possibility he was first influenced by the internet.

[N_Fiddledog]

Delwin Delwin:

No he did not convert in prison. He was released from prison in march 2013.

But...

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His first facebook reference to Islam comes shortly after his release on April 28, 2013.

I don't get it. April still comes after March doesn't it? So he gets out of jail, finds an internet connection and starts yammering about Islam, doesn't he? "Gee, where did he get those goofy ideas he's talking about now," asks his family and friends.

[Delwin]

You can read right ?

[Delwin]

That's why I corrected it. In the link I posted to the CNN interview, the reporter had stated that he had gone from "Jesus and Football" to radical Islam in the last 6 months.

This is what my initial assertion was based on.

The second part of my post is an edit. Which is specifically why I used the word "edit"

However, his stint in prison was very short as he has posted pictures on Feb.23 then the day again March 27, meaning his last stint was less than 2 months long. This doesn't mean he wasn't converted in prison but makes it less likely.

With regards to his family, it has been reported that his sister has referred to others in a facebook post as a "praying warriors". So it seems as though she has also converted, but not necessarily.

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On Facebook, Paige Nolen, who is believed to be Alton Nolen’s sister, wrote: “He is alive and doing well. Thanks to all praying warriors out there friends and family. To god be the glory! My bro is alive and just know that the devil is a lie. Please continue prayers.”

http://newsok.com/oklahoma-beheading-at ... le/5345835

[N_Fiddledog]

Delwin Delwin:

You can read right ?

Oh I can read just fine. What I can't do is understand nonsense.

Here's what you said.

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No he did not convert in prison. He was released from prison in march 2013. His facebook page posts have gone from Jesus and football to Radical Hatred within the last 6 months.

Then you said...

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edit: Sorry that is incorrect as reported by CNN

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video ... e.cnn.html

What was incorrect. Was it incorrect when you said he did not convert in prison? Are you saying now that he did? Judging from the way you're speaking now that doesn't seem reasonable.

Was it incorrect he was released from prison in March 2013? Looks to me like he did about a 2 year stint and got out in March 2013.

http://docapp065p.doc.state.ok.us/servl ... ageindex=5

Link to Oklahoma Department of corrections search came from here.

http://heavy.com/news/2014/09/alton-nol ... rk-vaughn/

You then said...

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His first facebook reference to Islam comes shortly after his release on April 28, 2013.

So that was after your edit. What's the problem then?

He did two years, got out in March, started posting Mohameddan hate crap on his Facebook page in April. Why could he not have been indoctrinated in prison?

As to when he posted the pics. Why he could he not have posted some of those in prison? Can they not use facebook in an Oklahoma prison while serving sentences of 2 years less a day? Betcha the library there has computers. You talk one way on the inside and another way on the outside. That's not unknown.

[Delwin]

What was incorrect was the CNN reporter who reported he had gone from Jesus and football to radical Islam in the last 6 months when he was clearly practicing Islam for a year and a half according to his facebook posts. He says this at 1:09 in the video for which I posted a link.

I guess he was hiding the fact he was in prison. I still don't think he converted in prison though. The report you posted by the dept of corrections indicates he has a tattoo that reads "AS-SALAAMU ATAIKUM". My belief is that report would have been written when he arrived in prison, not when he left.

That isn't to say that he didn't become more serious about it prison, or find some acceptance with other inmates and reignite his faith. Lots of people go to prison and "find god". The info you provided does lead me to believe that it was in prison were he became serious about it.

I still am not sure why it matters or what you think his conversion in prison implies ?

[N_Fiddledog]

Delwin Delwin:

I still am not sure why it matters or what you think his conversion in prison implies ?

Islamo-fascist conversion and brain training in Prison can be a problem. There are a lot of complaints about it in the UK.

http://chersonandmolschky.com/2014/02/1 ... 1275347858

And that's the thing - you can't do anything about a problem until you first admit it there is one.

[N_Fiddledog]

This one's more just for fun. It's from some sort of reborn Christian site. Nevertheless if you scroll down until you find the comic I will suggest the mechanics of what they describe there concerning prison indoctrination of Mohamedism may not be inaccurate.

It's called "The Unforgiven".

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1043/1043_01.asp