[Thanos]

Pretty sure by now that with all these "consultant's fees" and "bonuses" the chiefs are collecting fall under the same simple logic Lunchlady Doris uses at Springfield Elementary when she fills in as school nurse: "I get two paycheques this way". More mad at myself for not being cunning enough to think up some kind of lucrative scam like this for me.

[QBall]

http://tinyurl.com/ph8t7qq

First Nation band says it ‘knew nothing’ about chief’s ‘disconcerting’ $914K tax free salary

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“I want the public to know that the membership knew nothing about this,” said Marvin Joe, a former chief and one of two band councilors at Kwikwetlem, speaking to the National Post by cell phone on Friday morning. “And if it wasn’t for this new transparency act, I don’t think we ever would have known.”

Chalk one up for the new legislation.

[andyt]

Yes.

But how could they not know. This wasn't kept secret, the deal was there for all to see. His contract called for him to get 10% of any economic development he brought in, the province gave the band 8 million, so duh. Actually, it makes sense to have an incentive like that for somebody who's job it is drumming up business. I just wonder if getting money from the province qualifies as drumming up business.

[Regina]

Selling land is hardly what I would call "drumming up" business. To me that's called a commission which he should not be entitled to.

[andyt]

We've had the same cries of outrage when a lawyer collects a big check because he got his clients a big payout. Judges have even reduced these lawyer's fees. But, you don't like it, don't make the deal in the first place. Presumably the band council knew all about this contract with the economic development officer. The chief took over that job when the first guy quit, so I don't see how this comes as a surprise. What exactly do the band councillors do if they're not on top of what contracts are made and what monies come in and out. What exactly is their job?

[OnTheIce]

andyt andyt:

We've had the same cries of outrage when a lawyer collects a big check because he got his clients a big payout. Judges have even reduced these lawyer's fees. But, you don't like it, don't make the deal in the first place. Presumably the band council knew all about this contract with the economic development officer. The chief took over that job when the first guy quit, so I don't see how this comes as a surprise. What exactly do the band councillors do if they're not on top of what contracts are made and what monies come in and out. What exactly is their job?

Assuming of course, that the band members actually READ the contracts. Band members are salary collectors that occasionally get together to discuss issues and deal with issues as they arise on the reserve.

Actually digging into the details of contracts is beyond them. They likely heard of the 8+ million deal and didn't need to look further.

[andyt]

Not members, councillors. If what you say is true, then that's my point - they're not doing their job either. Can you imagine a mayor of a city writing himself a contract like this and the councillors don't know? Or think it's a valid excuse to say they didn't know.

[OnTheIce]

andyt andyt:

Not members, councillors. If what you say is true, then that's my point - they're not doing their job either. Can you imagine a mayor of a city writing himself a contract like this and the councillors don't know? Or think it's a valid excuse to say they didn't know.

We shouldn't be surprised.

Checking on another, the Chief of Chippewa's of Kettle & Stoney Point is over 100k.

This one is interesting too:

[OnTheIce]

This one...

[andyt]

They need a new chief. He's obviously not working hard enough if he's not collecting travel expenses at the same level as the councillors.

The taxpayer's fed likes to set off he salaries of these band councils vs a nearby city with far more people than live on the reserve. Inevitably, the band councils make much more money.

Let's hope that this will wake at least some band members up, as it seems to have done, and start demanding change.

[Zipperfish]

Tax free, to boot.

[Strutz]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

andyt andyt:

That would be Harper running Indian Affairs, or do you really think they make a move without his approval? This isn't the bureaucrats, this is the govt unwilling to stand up to the FN's, rather bribe them with tax money and hope they keep more or less quiet. Ain't gonna happen after the tsilhqot'in decision. The Harperites have at least tried to hold the line a bit vs the Libs, but not much. I will admit tho that this new policy of posting these things online is part of Harper's strategy of reducing support for the FN's. Good luck to him, he needs it.

And of course we can thank Trudeau for putting aboriginal rights in the constitution. The daughter of the chief who persuaded him to do so is now running as a star Liberal candidate, so we know how things will go if JT gets in. I just hope that Canadians wake up before we all have to start looking at our family trees to see what country might take us in as refugees, as we give the country away.

You're right. We're screwed no matter who's in power because no Gov't be it Liberal or Conservative has the spine to stand up to the poor natives. But saying it's all the Conservatives fault is just more partisan bullshit because at least they've shut Spence up, and made the Native leaders declare their tax free taxpayer funded income which is alot more than the Liberals ever did.

But that still doesn't exonerate Indian Affairs because they went along with the culture of entitlement for Native Leaders and kept their mouths shut for decades about the problems while people like this Chief got gross amounts of money.

So if it is the Gov't fault then they're going to have to find another bunch to run Indian Affairs because the current crowd has the culture of entitlement ingrained in their politically correct brains so any attempts at reform will likely be met with vehement opposition.

BTW, in your rant you forgot to mention good old Gregor Robertson who while being politically correct admitted Vancouver is actually on Native land and then got called on it by a native protester in Oppenheimer park.

And my point is? It isn't just the Fed's that are the problem it's the Provincial and Local Governments who are just as much at fault when it comes to bowing to the outrageous demands our Native friends make.

2 good posts that I can't rep so...

[DrCaleb]

$1:

First Nations Transparency Act holdouts given 120 days to post financial data

The federal government says First Nations bands have until the end of November to comply with new transparency rules that came into effect last week, or risk losing government funding.

The First Nations Financial Transparency Act requires that all bands post online their audited financial statements for the last fiscal year, including the salaries and expenses of their chiefs and councillors.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/first-n ... -1.2729100