[2Cdo]

andyt andyt:

Don't have students critically evaluate the evidence so they come to their own conclusion about the holocaust,

There is only one conclusion, it fucking happened. The evidence doesn't need evaluating, it already proves it happened.

[DrCaleb]

andyt andyt:

What are people afraid of exactly?

That denial leads to hatred, and hatred leads to more denial which leads to more hatred and the further we get from those events and the fewer people there are left to tell us of first hand accounts; the more likely that will happen. Because that is how it always happens.

This is exactly how the holocaust started in the early 1900's, with the acceptance of small things like "Jews are responsible for {insert malady here}", and over the years and decades it made most of the European population believe that Jews were the cause of all societies ills. And that's why Germany has made holocaust denial a crime, because the Nazis that still exist today would use this slowly increasing method of racism to justify their own existence.

[andyt]

I know full well why Germany did what it did. Still don't agree with it. As I say, what's next on the agenda of being beyond question with sanctions for doing so? Maybe something you want to speak out about.

If we adopt 2Cdo's system of teaching, would sure save a lot of fuss and time. This is the fucking truth, don't think about it, just swallow and on to the next subject. Again, what if the truth being taught is one you don't happen to agree with. No critical thinking skills taught, nobody questions. Works well for the military tho, gotta admit that.

As Sandorski described it, there's nothing wrong with what was done here.

[2Cdo]

andyt andyt:

If we adopt 2Cdo's system of teaching, would sure save a lot of fuss and time. This is the fucking truth, don't think about it, just swallow and on to the next subject. Again, what if the truth being taught is one you don't happen to agree with. No critical thinking skills taught, nobody questions. Works well for the military tho, gotta admit that.

There's that respect you claim to have for the military shining through, again.

Once again, you have no clue. In this case there is only one truth. You wish to evaluate and come to your own conclusion whether it happened or not. Good idea Ernst.

But I especially liked this part,

$1:

what if the truth being taught is one you don't happen to agree with

, it's still the fucking truth dummy.

$1:

As Sandorski described it, there's nothing wrong with what was done here.

And the local Aryan Nation chapter applauds you and your fellow moron.

[andyt]

ve vill not question, ve vill accept vat ve are tolt.

[2Cdo]

andyt andyt:

ve vill not question, ve vill accept vat ve are tolt.

You already got the accent down.

I'd love to see you defend any religious folk who claim that evolution doesn't happen. After all, it's a truth they don't agree with.

[andyt]

I would have no problem with the students doing this exercise with evolution. Was just thinking of that myself. It would much more convince them if they looked at the evidence themselves, compared it critically to the "evidence" of the creationists.

Same with global warming - just shove the "truth" down their throat or help them evaluate it critically. Or anything else. "Military, mindless robots who believe in groupthink or individuals with critical thinking skills?" That would be a good topic too.

[fifeboy]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

andyt andyt:

ve vill not question, ve vill accept vat ve are tolt.

You already got the accent down.

I'd love to see you defend any religious folk who claim that evolution doesn't happen. After all, it's a truth they don't agree with.

There is a difference between spending time teaching Creation Science and letting students look at the evidence and discussing its merits vs Evolution.

On the other hand though, there is a well established history of people being hurt by Holocaust denial and perhaps another topic would have been more appropriate.

[andyt]

People are hurt by teaching evolution as well. Or climate change.

[2Cdo]

andyt andyt:

"Military, mindless robots who believe in groupthink or individuals with critical thinking skills?" That would be a good topic too.

More respect from the local Timmies barista.

[andyt]

Don't know what it is with so many military people who demand respect for being in the military. Guess they don't have any for themselves. Oh, well, the ones that aren't going on and on about the respect they deserve, you never hear from them. Those are the ones probably much more deserving of it.

[2Cdo]

andyt andyt:

Don't know what it is with so many military people who demand respect for being in the military. Guess they don't have any for themselves. Oh, well, the ones that aren't going on and on about the respect they deserve, you never hear from them. Those are the ones probably much more deserving of it.

Once again, dummy doesn't get it. It was a comment you made about the respect you have for the military, yet I can't think of any Forces member on this site that you get along with.

I find your deceitful behavior very illuminating. It convinces me that my first impression of you was bang on.

[andyt]

You're absolutely right. I should have pointed out that not all members of the military are exemplars of the stereotype. You just happen to be one.

[2Cdo]

andyt andyt:

You're absolutely right. I should have pointed out that not all members of the military are exemplars of the stereotype. You just happen to be one.

Wrong again. You just don't like anyone who points out how ignorant you are.

I could make this a full time job exposing your failures but I have other things to do.

[sandorski]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

andyt andyt:

If we adopt 2Cdo's system of teaching, would sure save a lot of fuss and time. This is the fucking truth, don't think about it, just swallow and on to the next subject. Again, what if the truth being taught is one you don't happen to agree with. No critical thinking skills taught, nobody questions. Works well for the military tho, gotta admit that.

There's that respect you claim to have for the military shining through, again.

Once again, you have no clue. In this case there is only one truth. You wish to evaluate and come to your own conclusion whether it happened or not. Good idea Ernst.

But I especially liked this part,

$1:

what if the truth being taught is one you don't happen to agree with

, it's still the fucking truth dummy.

$1:

As Sandorski described it, there's nothing wrong with what was done here.

And the local Aryan Nation chapter applauds you and your fellow moron.

Oy vey. I agree with you that the Holocaust is true and what happened. However, it is important for every person to have the ability to discern that. To decipher between what is True and Accurate and what is False. Otherwise they will just accept what any Authority tells them.