[DrCaleb]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

The poor seniors and disabled people....how ever will they get by without door to door mail!

Barf.

Is your local Supermailbox farm wheelchair accessible? Mine is barely accessible by truck, let alone some guy in a wheelchair or a senior with a cane or walker.

[Zipperfish]

andyt andyt:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Peter McKay think homeless people who can't pay fines should just " God forbid, sell a bit of property to pay and make compensation to their victim".

Kidneys are always in demand, or for smaller amounts, just a nice cornea.

Did you ever see that show--it might have been an Outer Limits--where you could sell your memories to the rich, but you lost the memory yourself in the extraction process. Fantastic.

[OnTheIce]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

The poor seniors and disabled people....how ever will they get by without door to door mail!

Barf.

Is your local Supermailbox farm wheelchair accessible? Mine is barely accessible by truck, let alone some guy in a wheelchair or a senior with a cane or walker.

Do seniors and the disabled eat? Where do they shop?

Most seniors and the disabled have to shop for their basic needs which involves getting out, walking and driving. Yes! Seniors and the disabled aren't all crippled people that can't make it around their own house. My 89 year old grandmother is actually able to walk to her mailbox! The tragedy!

Those who require in-home care likely have someone that comes by once or multiple times a day....so asking them to walk a couple houses down for their mail isn't a reason why we should keep funding thousands of employees to service a small percentage of people who may not be able to get out.

This is an exaggeration for a solution that is LONG overdue.

[Unsound]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Do seniors and the disabled eat? Where do they shop?

Most seniors and the disabled have to shop for their basic needs which involves getting out, walking and driving. Yes! Seniors and the disabled aren't all crippled people that can't make it around their own house. My 89 year old grandmother is actually able to walk to her mailbox! The tragedy!

Those who require in-home care likely have someone that comes by once or multiple times a day....so asking them to walk a couple houses down for their mail isn't a reason why we should keep funding thousands of employees to service a small percentage of people who may not be able to get out.

This is an exaggeration for a solution that is LONG overdue.

Nail on the head.

[bootlegga]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Do seniors and the disabled eat? Where do they shop?

Most seniors and the disabled have to shop for their basic needs which involves getting out, walking and driving. Yes! Seniors and the disabled aren't all crippled people that can't make it around their own house. My 89 year old grandmother is actually able to walk to her mailbox! The tragedy!

Those who require in-home care likely have someone that comes by once or multiple times a day....so asking them to walk a couple houses down for their mail isn't a reason why we should keep funding thousands of employees to service a small percentage of people who may not be able to get out.

This is an exaggeration for a solution that is LONG overdue.

Let's be honest. This is about saving money, pure and simple. Concern for the elderly probably wasn't even really considered when they made this decision.

I'm glad that your 89 year old grandmother can walk to the mailbox - however, she is not representative of 100% of seniors. I've volunteered for a senior's organization here in Edmonton and let me tell you, many of that age cannot walk a few doors down the street, no matter the season. Others can do so in summer months, but not the winter ones. Others can barely walk a few steps before running out of breath.

Given that falls are one of the leading causes of injury/death roughly one-third of seniors over 65 fall each year (it jumps to 50% after age 80), this IS a real issue.

Falls can also affect future health - seniors are more likely to die from surgical procedures, a fall can lead to medical complications (dehydration, pressure sores, hypothermia, and pneumonia), etc. - it further compounds the problem. And let's remember - people are living LONGER these days, so these cuts will impact more people, not less.

Finally, while these changes might make Canada Post break even, it may cost health care organizations (falls account for 25% of hospital admissions) more to deal with the fallout from this decision. This appears to be a case of robbing Peter to pay Paul.

[Jabberwalker]

$1:

Let's be honest. This is about saving money, pure and simple.

When I'm 89, they'll be killing us and turning us into pet food to "save money". That will be the Gen-X version of the Neocon world.

[OnTheIce]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Let's be honest. This is about saving money, pure and simple. Concern for the elderly probably wasn't even really considered when they made this decision.

This is business. You don't run a business around a select few people.

bootlegga bootlegga:

I'm glad that your 89 year old grandmother can walk to the mailbox - however, she is not representative of 100% of seniors. I've volunteered for a senior's organization here in Edmonton and let me tell you, many of that age cannot walk a few doors down the street, no matter the season. Others can do so in summer months, but not the winter ones. Others can barely walk a few steps before running out of breath.

Since you have first hand experience, how do these people get their food?

Do we offer door-to-door food delivery by a government run agency?

The bottom line is that the very select few Canadians that will be affected by this and they often have family or caregivers to help them shop, take them to doctors appointments, etc. I doubt that these people won't help the same seniors get their mail.

bootlegga bootlegga:

Finally, while these changes might make Canada Post break even, it may cost health care organizations (falls account for 25% of hospital admissions) more to deal with the fallout from this decision. This appears to be a case of robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Give me a break! What a load of crap.

This is a case of moving a business into the 21st century, making a smart and overdue decision that makes logical and financial sense for the vast majority of Canadians, while you and the rest of the anti-Harper crew want to make a political point on the backs of seniors and the disabled.

Let's not let common sense get in the way of a perfectly valid decision by Canada Post.

[OnTheIce]

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

$1:

Let's be honest. This is about saving money, pure and simple.

When I'm 89, they'll be killing us and turning us into pet food to "save money". That will be the Gen-X version of the Neocon world.

And maybe by then, you'll figure out the quote feature on the forum.

Perhaps it's the tinfoil.

[BartSimpson]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Yeah, seniors just LOVE walking outdoors in the middle of winter. The possibility of slipping and falling and breaking a hip will make the whole thing feel like an adventure.

You know they break their hips just so they can get the ambulance ride, right? Deepak thinks these old softies just need to walk off those hip fractures.

[Jabberwalker]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

$1:

Let's be honest. This is about saving money, pure and simple.

When I'm 89, they'll be killing us and turning us into pet food to "save money". That will be the Gen-X version of the Neocon world.

And maybe by then, you'll figure out the quote feature on the forum.

Perhaps it's the tinfoil.

Well, I used it in the example that you sited, so I'm not sure what the whine is about. Since you can't quote more than three deep, I sometimes just cut, paste and italicise a statement if I'n in too many layers deep. More often that not, I use the "select quote" function and single out a line or two. Apparently. all of these techniques are new to you. Are they still locking you in the cupboard under the sink?

[commanderkai]

It's a decision that needs to be done to keep Canada Post viable, BUT COME ON! Don't give a bullshit statements like that. *Sighs*

[Gunnair]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Yeah, seniors just LOVE walking outdoors in the middle of winter. The possibility of slipping and falling and breaking a hip will make the whole thing feel like an adventure.

You know they break their hips just so they can get the ambulance ride, right? Deepak thinks these old softies just need to walk off those hip fractures.

Yep.

"Shake it off, Grandma! It'll buff out!"

[jj2424]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

The poor seniors and disabled people....how ever will they get by without door to door mail!

Barf.

Is your local Supermailbox farm wheelchair accessible? Mine is barely accessible by truck, let alone some guy in a wheelchair or a senior with a cane or walker.

Do seniors and the disabled eat? Where do they shop?

Most seniors and the disabled have to shop for their basic needs which involves getting out, walking and driving. Yes! Seniors and the disabled aren't all crippled people that can't make it around their own house. My 89 year old grandmother is actually able to walk to her mailbox! The tragedy!

Those who require in-home care likely have someone that comes by once or multiple times a day....so asking them to walk a couple houses down for their mail isn't a reason why we should keep funding thousands of employees to service a small percentage of people who may not be able to get out.

This is an exaggeration for a solution that is LONG overdue.

Much to do about nothing. Super boxes have been around since Trudeau was PM, disabled end elderly manage just fine. How many times in a week do you really need to check your mailbox?

If Justin wants to cry about it he can blame daddy.

[redhatmamma]

Faux outrage is right. Where has all this outrage been for the 2/3 of Canadians including the disabled and elderly who allready don't have home delivery.

Maybe we should bring back the milk man too.

[OnTheIce]

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

Well, I used it in the example that you sited, so I'm not sure what the whine is about. Since you can't quote more than three deep, I sometimes just cut, paste and italicise a statement if I'n in too many layers deep. More often that not, I use the "select quote" function and single out a line or two. Apparently. all of these techniques are new to you. Are they still locking you in the cupboard under the sink?

When you take a quote from someone, learn how to use the feature properly as I have above.

It's really not that hard for the majority of us. In hindsight, seeing your grammar and spelling in the post above, perhaps I set the bar a little to high in terms of my expectations from you. My apologies.