[andyt]

(Re-)read my last sentence. What's certain is that kids currently can easily get their hands on pot, so I don't see how legalization will make that worse. If anything, remove a bit of the rebellion factor attraction. But then that doesn't seem to work with legal booze or cigs either.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

can't see it that way. Even if pot were regulated, they could just grow their own plants. Decent DIY fermentation is a little more involved and time consuming..... and expensive.

Yep, for as little as $150-$200 I can buy the gear I need to grow weed 365 days a year, and not that hydroponic crap either.

[andyt]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

can't see it that way. Even if pot were regulated, they could just grow their own plants. Decent DIY fermentation is a little more involved and time consuming..... and expensive.

Yep, for as little as $150-$200 I can buy the gear I need to grow weed 365 days a year, and not that hydroponic crap either.

And yet gangs thrive on pot, their biggest money maker. supposedly a 7 billion dollar industry in bc. Looks like most people don't grow now and probably won't if it's legalized either. Especially when the price drops. (You'd have to look at the link about that i posted in another topic - basically that the cost of production is so low (same as cigs)that market pressure will drive the price way down, even with high taxes. This of course doesn't bode well for consumption, (ie it will go up) something to watch in CO and WA once they get their legal sales systems sorted out.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

andyt andyt:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

can't see it that way. Even if pot were regulated, they could just grow their own plants. Decent DIY fermentation is a little more involved and time consuming..... and expensive.

Yep, for as little as $150-$200 I can buy the gear I need to grow weed 365 days a year, and not that hydroponic crap either.

And yet gangs thrive on pot, their biggest money maker. supposedly a 7 billion dollar industry in bc. Looks like most people don't grow now and probably won't if it's legalized either. Especially when the price drops. (You'd have to look at the link about that i posted in another topic - basically that the cost of production is so low (same as cigs)that market pressure will drive the price way down, even with high taxes. This of course doesn't bode well for consumption, (ie it will go up) something to watch in CO and WA once they get their legal sales systems sorted out.

Just like beer and wine dude. I'm sure the vast majority of consumers don't brew/vint their own. Not to mention the penalties are pretty harsh for the average Joe if he gets caught growing even a handful of plants. It's called "risk assessment"
As far as weed goes, I think the govt needs to work more on damage control and reduced spending on stupid crap like small end growers and smokers. Don't worry about making a profit from it through taxes from sales right away. Allow for simple possession and for people to grow a very limited number of plants. THEN, if anyone is caught mass cultivating or trafficking, make the punishment harsh enough to make the current penalties look a slap on the wrist.

As for consumption concerns, Portugal has de facto legalized weed(and all drugs for consumption only) for a decade now. Hard drug and alcohol abuse have declined. And while there has been a increase in overall pot use through all age groups(except teens), there has been a near corresponding decrease in underage use. Of course some of the increase can be accounted for by people switching their substance of choice.

[Canadian_Mind]

andyt andyt:

Kids find it easier to score pot than booze, because pot is not regulated. That is why people argue that regulated pot would actually make it a bit harder for kids to get their hands on pot. The fly in the ointment is that pot is so easy to produce vs booze, but then that's already true, and I would guess most kids don't grow but score.

I dunno about on the mainland... But on the island lots of kids take an early interest in horticulture. Just sayin...

[DemonicD3]

Weed is a profitable thing and could be a lot more profitable should it be legalized. Putting that profit into the right hands instead of feeding those profits into gangs and criminals by keeping it illegal. Which don't make sense considering they have done so much in regards to modifying weed so it comes in many shapes and forms. Can be smoked, eaten or you can even drink it. Can also get blends that comes with all the positive effects but without the bad effects like paranoia and the high. Any which way you want or are comfortable with. Yet cigarettes which is loaded with all sorts of chemicals that can kill you is perfectly legal.

The business model for it already exists, you need a license to grow and sell it legally and you need a sort of medical weed card to buy it legally. Only instead of limiting the use of it, only limit it to people underage or people who get strange effects when taking it. The exact same control as alcohol, except none of the bad effects of alcohol.

[DVC185]

Apart from the recreational aspects of dope, of which there are many apparently, are the active ingredients in dope available in a pill form for those wishing to derive the medical benefits?

I really can't see long term dope smoking to be good for you....probably the same as cigarettes in the long term.