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[martin14]

Public_Domain Public_Domain:

Yeah, the poor people fucked up Detroit. Are you kidding?

Soooooo thiiiiiick

Yes they fucked up by going on a shooting rampage for 50 years.


That, along with 50 years of left wing politics, left wing unions,
lots of left wing corruption making a disaster of everything.

You know, all your good buddies.


Just follow the demographics.

Of course, you don't see it cuz yer so ...

[QBall]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

How will this affect the Red Wings?

They'll have to change their name to Detroit "In The Red" Wings.

[Lemmy]

QBall QBall:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

How will this affect the Red Wings?

They'll have to change their name to Detroit "In The Red" Wings.

And every player will now wear #11.

[DrCaleb]

I wonder now how many public servants are going to lose their pensions now. People who worked all their lives, and really can't afford to be broke.

And Detroit only has 700k residents? Add the second largest bankrupcy, Stockton CA to the list with 300k residents, and you have the population of my city, Edmonton. And we are doing quite well.

What a difference location and good management makes.

[Zipperfish]

Public_Domain Public_Domain:

Yeah, the poor people fucked up Detroit. Are you kidding?

Soooooo thiiiiiick

Hedgehog.

The fox knows many little things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.

[commanderkai]

Public_Domain Public_Domain:

Yeah, the poor people fucked up Detroit. Are you kidding?

Soooooo thiiiiiick

So, in your view, what brought Detroit down? Continuing to elect a crappy municipal government certainly didn't help Detroit. But you might have some interesting insight.

[DanSC]

Remember, this is the city that almost turned down a Canadian-financed bridge so they could keep paying tolls to Mr. Moroun.

On the plus side, Ontario could now buy Detroit for cheap.

[BartSimpson]

Detroit Detroit:

Surprised it took this long actually..
Can buy a block there for about 20Gs in some areas..

The reason why those real estate prices are so depressed and the reason why no one wants to buy those properties even at fire sale prices is because the new buyers are on the hook for all of the back taxes.

We had someone on this site from Windsor (an active member whose name I forget) who bought a place in Detroit at auction for some ridiculous price like $1800 and then abandoned it after he found out that the first thing he had to do before he could fix up the place was to pay some $150,000 in back taxes.

Screw that.

peck420 peck420:

Just out of curiosity, what responsibility does the State of Michigan have in all of this?

It is my understanding that municipalities in the US are much more dependent on State funding then in Canada.

States generally receive their revenues from income taxes and state sales taxes. Municipalities generally receive their revenues from property taxes, building permits, and (where applicable) local sales taxes and local income taxes.

The State of Michigan at one time had such a sizable pool of revenue from corporate income taxes that they started sharing it with the cities. In recent years those revenues have declined as industry in Michigan has declined so the state cut those revenues to the cities correspondingly.

Keep in mind that those revenues were supposed to be extra income and the cities were not supposed to make themselves dependent upon that revenue. Saginaw and Detroit moved those revenues to their general funds and now both cities are hurting because the revenues were reduced.

The cities are victims of their own mismanagement is all.

[Thanos]

Just like any other city that had the misfortune to be governed by them, Detroit was basically destroyed by the Jesse Jackson breed of black American politician that played naked tribal politics against their enemies (usually against the the remaining white politicians and white urban residents) and simultaneously looted the city treasuries for every dollar they could steal. Detroit's infamous Kwame Kilpatrick was just the last in a long line of urban politicians that destroy everything they touch. It's less party affiliation than it is a type of carpetbagger public "servant" that, for the last forty years, have devastated every American city that they end up in control of. Businesses flee the corruption and massive tax hikes, white residents flee the increasing crime and race-based vindictiveness of the mayors and city councils for the safety of the suburbs, and the end result is a hollowed out urban core that's been abandoned and left to rot.

Racism is bad but what the (alleged) counter-racists of the Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton school created was about a million times worse for the cities they ended up dominating. Why should state governments like the one in Michigan be liable for endlessly bailing out cities like Detroit just because local Detroit political figures can't not behave like a bunch of thieves and gangsters?



(State Senator Clay Davis endorses this post)

[martin14]

Thanos Thanos:

It's less party affiliation than it is a type of carpetbagger public "servant" that, for the last forty years,

Why do I get the feeling if it was Republicans for 50 years, you would be out with yet
another huge rage against the Tea Party, Republicans and those evil Bush neocons.

Instead, we get this slight partisan crap.

Call it for what it is... 50 solid years of DEMOCRAT leadership, taking every
left wing project they could find and destroying everything in their path.

[Lemmy]

The collapse of Detroit is the collapse of manufacturing and nothing could have changed that no matter how right-wing the government had been.

[DrCaleb]

martin14 martin14:

Thanos Thanos:

It's less party affiliation than it is a type of carpetbagger public "servant" that, for the last forty years,

Why do I get the feeling if it was Republicans for 50 years, you would be out with yet another huge rage against the Tea Party, Republicans and those evil Bush neocons.

Call it for what it is... 50 solid years of DEMOCRAT leadership, taking every
left wing they could find and destroying everything in their path.

Instead, we get this slight partisan crap.

Rearranged, just to highlight the irony.

[Thanos]

martin14 martin14:

Thanos Thanos:

It's less party affiliation than it is a type of carpetbagger public "servant" that, for the last forty years,

Why do I get the feeling if it was Republicans for 50 years, you would be out with yet
another huge rage against the Tea Party, Republicans and those evil Bush neocons.

Instead, we get this slight partisan crap.

Call it for what it is... 50 solid years of DEMOCRAT leadership, taking every
left wing they could find and destroying everything in their path.

Your uncanny ability to personalize practically everything is probably the main reason that I rarely bother to respond to any of your posts.

[martin14]

Lemmy Lemmy:

The collapse of Detroit is the collapse of manufacturing and nothing could have changed that no matter how right-wing the government had been.

I could agree with you if places like Dearborn, Livonia or Troy was also
100% in the shitter.

Not to say everything is all hunky dory, but those towns aren't 20 billion in the hole.

Something else at work there.