[Gunnair]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

you had a really quiet childhood?

One forgot to lower my head as he pushed me in the back seat.

Ouch.

[Public_Domain]

[Public_Domain]

[Thanos]

andyt andyt:

Same thing in Winnipeg or Regina recently. "Da evil white man took me on a starlight tour" "so how come the GPS in the squad car doesn't show it leaving the area?" Bada Bing.

Fuck you and your fuckin fuck of a whitey-made GPS. I know what dem fuckin cop fucks did to me, even if I was too fuckin pissed to fuckin remember any of it at all. Don't believe me? Fuck you, I'm goin' to go call my lawyer and complain to the fuckin CBC!

[cora]

uwish uwish:

I agree ShepherdsDog..but...it's those 'fragile' Indians we talking about now.

Some of whom are very fine police officers and soldiers. May even be members here.

But it looks like this kid was making up an excuse for being late. I guess he won't use that one again!

[Freakinoldguy]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

A healthy respect for authority. The pendulum has gone too far the other way. Manual attitude adjustments aren't necessarily abuse

To bad that manual attitude adjustments now include Tasering till comotose, shooting without provocation and being found dead in your cell.

Sorry but this isn't the 60's and cops now aren't the 6'4" guys we remember that would beat the crap out of you for mouthing off but, who could be trusted to take care of the public by using the necessary amount of physical motivation.

Now alot of them are 5'4" men and women with inferiority complexes who have to and willingly use weapons to enforce their will upon uncooperative persons.

Maybe we should go back to some form of non policially correct standard when picking our police officers because the system we use now may work for being all inclusive but, it doesn't work for keeping the public safe from alot of those same all included people.

Some people just shouldn't be police officers and including everyone who has that dream doesn't make them anymore capable despite what the politically correct keep telling us.

[Zipperfish]

Tricks Tricks:

I helped the police do some attitude adjustments... does that count?

Whatever gets your dick hard man.

[cora]

Hate to blow your theory Freakinoldguy, but the nastiest cop in these parts is 6'2" white male.
So is the best cop I know.

I have come across a short sgt with a hate on for a tall assertive woman.
Oh, and a short chubby lesbian with a hate on for a tall assertive straight woman.
Other than that, in my experience, the women cops are very good.

I don't buy your theory that 'political correctness' has negatively impacted policing. In my experience, the old style males who complain about 'political correctness' are less effective.

But I think competence comes in all sizes, genders, colours and ages.

[Freakinoldguy]

This has nothing to do with nastiness because if it did the cops from my youth would have won by a mile.

They were big, mean and nasty but on the plus side they could take care of a drunk or criminal physically without resorting to the use of lethal and non lethal weapons to do it simply because they were big enough to impose their will on people.

So as the size, gender and ability requirements shrank we started to see more and more people being subdued with weapons rather than physically like in the old days which, has led to a string of deaths and injuries that wouldn't have been nor were encountered years ago.

I'm not saying a small male or female police officer aren't capable all I'm saying is that in most cases they're likely incapable of physically subding someone without the use of their weapons.

We can look at all kinds of cases just in BC alone. We have Robert Dziekański tasered to death by four healthy RCMP Officers. We have that guy in Vancouver killed by two female Vancouver Police officers for not dropping his box cutter immediately and about a week later we have a psychotic man with a Sumarai sword subdued by two large Vancouver City Police officers without the use of tasers or guns? Notice the diffference? We have Darren Varley shot in the back of the head by an RCMP Officer during a scuffle in a jail cell in Pincher Creek.

I may be wrong but I don't remember these types of things happening in my youth because the police didn't allow things to escalate that far and they weren't afraid to use their size to make sure it didn't.

In todays society the powers that be are more concerned about making sure everybody gets included rather than making sure people can physically and mentally do the job they're hired for.

[Thanos]

Those things that you mentioned though happened because the police everywhere can no longer rely on a chokehold to take the piss out of someone who won't calm down or is trying to pick a fight with the cops deliberately. That's why they've become too dependent on tasers especially. Every weapon that gets taken away from the police means they have to find a new method and, in the case of the tasers, the new method might end up being worse than the one it replaces.

What the hell anyway, we're probably not too far away in some jurisdictions from the police being banned from any action at all except for "please don't do that, it's not nice for you to do that" when dealing from some of these scum. And all of this is proudly brought to you by the type of pencil-necked liberals who also think that the military should be obligated to parachute in a battalion of defense lawyers to make sure the rights of the enemy that are trying to kill our guys never get violated. Yay for the new world order?

[Freakinoldguy]

Thanos Thanos:

Those things that you mentioned though happened because the police everywhere can no longer rely on a chokehold to take the piss out of someone who won't calm down or is trying to pick a fight with the cops deliberately. That's why they've become too dependent on tasers especially. Every weapon that gets taken away from the police means they have to find a new method and, in the case of the tasers, the new method might end up being worse than the one it replaces.

What the hell anyway, we're probably not too far away in some jurisdictions from the police being banned from any action at all except for "please don't do that, it's not nice for you to do that" when dealing from some of these scum. And all of this is proudly brought to you by the type of pencil-necked liberals who also think that the military should be obligated to parachute in a battalion of defense lawyers to make sure the rights of the enemy that are trying to kill our guys never get violated. Yay for the new world order?

Kinda like the San Angeles Police Department in Demoliton Man.

$1:

Squad Leader: Simon Phoenix! Lie down with your hands behind your back.
Simon Phoenix: What's this? Six of you. Such nice, tidy uniforms. Oh I'm so scared!
[the Police Officers look at each other]
Simon Phoenix: What you guys don't have sarcasm anymore?
[Police Officer talks to his automated assistant]
Squad Leader: Maniac has responded with a scornful remark.
automated assistant: Approach, and repeat ultimatum in an even firmer tone of voice. Add the words, "or else".

Sad but true.

[Jonny_C]

There are so many dangers inherent in a "starlight tour" tactic being used by police that any police officer would be foolish to use it. Aside from the dangers it poses to anyone picked up by the police, the tactic has the strong possibility of rebounding on an officer using it.

The good that comes out of a story like this is that police departments are reminded of this. It's made clear that condoning such a practice "unofficially" leaves a department wide open to problems. That might be quite enough to curtail the occasional inclination to see "starlight" as an option.

Officers are expected to use their judgement all the time, but within a set of rules determined by the law and community expectations.

[Tricks]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Tricks Tricks:

I helped the police do some attitude adjustments... does that count?

Whatever gets your dick hard man.