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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:48 pm
Catholic schools churn out Catholic schoolgirls, which is nothing short of awesome with those short skirts and all that innate Irish/Italian/French wildness in them. [/perv]
I like the part where Catholic school is supposed to teach the kids about respecting authority and living in a Godly manner, but the Catholic kids by high school are usually the wildest party animals you could ever hope to find. Always get a major laugh out of that particular phenomenon.
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:42 pm
Interesting that some provinces ask if you want that portion of your property tax to go to public or private schools. By the above comments it seems Ontario, Alberta and Saskatchewan do. I'm unsure about the other provinces and territories.
In BC there is no such option to choose so my assumption is that that portion of my property tax gets entirely directed to the public school system.
For some reason, I was always under the impression that non-public schools, regardless if they were Catholic or other, were entirly funded by those who attended them and by the organization behind them (church, synagogue, whatever) but obviously that's not the case everywhere.
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Prof_Chomsky
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:04 pm
Publically funded school should be secular, period.
If people believe religion has a place in their kids’ overall education, have an elective period in the curriculum where each kid can learn whatever religious beliefs their parents prefer – at the religion’s expense.
The rest of the heathen kids can take other useless courses like evolution, math, physics or ethics.
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andyt
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:23 pm
Prof_Chomsky Prof_Chomsky: Publically funded school should be secular, period.
If people believe religion has a place in their kids’ overall education, have an elective period in the curriculum where each kid can learn whatever religious beliefs their parents prefer – at the religion’s expense.
The rest of the heathen kids can take other useless courses like evolution, math, physics or ethics. Not really necessary - why can't the parents indoctrinate teach their children on their own time?
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OnTheIce 
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:00 pm
Thanos Thanos: I like the part where Catholic school is supposed to teach the kids about respecting authority and living in a Godly manner, but the Catholic kids by high school are usually the wildest party animals you could ever hope to find. Always get a major laugh out of that particular phenomenon. I had a similar experience...most Catholic school girls I knew where the first to get laid at the big parties. Ah, those were the days..... ![Drool [drool]](./images/smilies/droolies.GIF)
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:27 pm
Public schools instill secular humanism, which, though not referred to as such, is basically a religion. Kind of nice Jesus-y Christianity without the Jesus.
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Prof_Chomsky
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:14 am
Zipperfish Zipperfish: Public schools instill secular humanism, which, though not referred to as such, is basically a religion. Kind of nice Jesus-y Christianity without the Jesus. How does teaching universal morals, ethics and the necessity of the Golden Rule in a civil society even remotely resemble a religion?!?
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:57 pm
In Montreal, up till 1998, we had two publically funded religious based school boards. They were the Protestant School Board of Greater Montreal and the Montreal Catholic School Commission. The Protestant School Board had mainly English language schools. The Catholic School Board had both English and French language schools. Generally, all non-Catholics went to the Protestant schools.
In 1998, the religious based school boards were abolished, and linguistic based school boards were created. The two English language school boards that were created in Montreal are the Lester B. Pearson and the English Montreal school boards.
I guess I'm old fashioned, however I personally preferred the old school boards.
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:14 pm
Prof_Chomsky Prof_Chomsky: Publically funded school should be secular, period.
If people believe religion has a place in their kids’ overall education, have an elective period in the curriculum where each kid can learn whatever religious beliefs their parents prefer – at the religion’s expense.
The rest of the heathen kids can take other useless courses like evolution, math, physics or ethics. I hate to tell you this but the Catholic School curriculum in Saskatchewan is exactly the same as the public system. The do teach faith and caring which seems to be lacking in the public system. I also know that I had to check off a box stating that I wanted the school portion of my taxes to be given to the Catholic system. Those who didn't want to didn't have to. My taxes are paying for my kids to attend a Catholic school and not yours.
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:39 pm
Faith is opinion, and such opinion has no place in schools. Schools are supposed to be a place of higher learning and critical thinking, not a soap box for the Church's Morals, especially when so many are assbackwards.
If you want to indoctrinate your children with religion, leave it out of a place of learning and do it at home or in church.
And before anyone says, obviously the opinion of teachers get spewed into the public system as well, but it's a hell of a lot easier to tell their bullshit apart from actual fact, especially when not spewed at you daily for 12 years.
Children are impressionable and will often take on the opinions of those around them, Catholic schools are no better than acceptable brainwashing.
inb4 shitstorm.
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 2:52 pm
I hope she wins.
Religion should be kept out of the public square and off the public dollar. Even if my taxes are not directly going to the Catholic schools I pay for them in other ways such as zoning, traffic and landscaping costs.
Besides if Catholics have a right to send their kids to a specialized school where is my right to send my kid to a Buddhist school?
When it comes to religion the only safe and ethical answers are all or nothing.
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:05 pm
Tricks Tricks: Faith is opinion, and such opinion has no place in schools. Schools are supposed to be a place of higher learning and critical thinking, not a soap box for the Church's Morals, especially when so many are assbackwards.
If you want to indoctrinate your children with religion, leave it out of a place of learning and do it at home or in church.
And before anyone says, obviously the opinion of teachers get spewed into the public system as well, but it's a hell of a lot easier to tell their bullshit apart from actual fact, especially when not spewed at you daily for 12 years.
Children are impressionable and will often take on the opinions of those around them, Catholic schools are no better than acceptable brainwashing.
inb4 shitstorm. I was going to politely debate you on your points, until you came up with the brainwashing line. Go fuck yourself is all the debate you deserve.
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:27 pm
jj2424 jj2424: Tricks Tricks: Faith is opinion, and such opinion has no place in schools. Schools are supposed to be a place of higher learning and critical thinking, not a soap box for the Church's Morals, especially when so many are assbackwards.
If you want to indoctrinate your children with religion, leave it out of a place of learning and do it at home or in church.
And before anyone says, obviously the opinion of teachers get spewed into the public system as well, but it's a hell of a lot easier to tell their bullshit apart from actual fact, especially when not spewed at you daily for 12 years.
Children are impressionable and will often take on the opinions of those around them, Catholic schools are no better than acceptable brainwashing.
inb4 shitstorm. I was going to politely debate you on your points, until you came up with the brainwashing line. Go fuck yourself is all the debate you deserve. Aw? Don't like differing opinions? Indoctrination, Brainwashing, same shit different day.
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:27 pm
For those who want to bitch about Catholic schools which teach the EXACT same thing as public schools better be willing to shut up when there are Muslim and Hindi and other religious schools. I am so happy that my children had the opportunity to attend Catholic schools because not only did they learn their ABC's and 123's but they also learned about compassion and acceptance. A couple of things that some posters on here do not seem to have.
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:36 pm
Can someone please give me the exact definition of Public Schools in Canada. Are we talking about a system that every student learns the exact same thing? If so then who develops the criteria? Some schools allow children to sit down while the National Anthem is sung or played. Some schools allow kids to pass with well below passing grades. Some schools do not allow a 0 for incomplete work. So much for a public school system that works.
I am more worried about the education my child receives than the type of school that my taxes fund, be it Catholic or public.
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