[BeaverFever]

raydan raydan:

Brenda Brenda:

So sniffing shoe polish is fine, twice a day, for 10 years, but sniffing food is not?
Just because you know food is for indigestion and shoe polish is not?
That doesn't make sense then either...

Have you EVER read on ANY label, that you should not sniff it for 10 years, twice a day? It doesn't even say on glue that you should not sniff it...

Not that I agree with it, but that's the argument.
We don't expect people to sniff glue or shoe polish every day so we shouldn't need to put warnings to tell people not to do it. But everybody smells his food, it's expected, and because of this, it should be perfectly safe to do so, even if it's the same thing, every day, twice a day for years.

Somebody gets it!!

[Brenda]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

raydan raydan:

Brenda Brenda:

So sniffing shoe polish is fine, twice a day, for 10 years, but sniffing food is not?
Just because you know food is for indigestion and shoe polish is not?
That doesn't make sense then either...

Have you EVER read on ANY label, that you should not sniff it for 10 years, twice a day? It doesn't even say on glue that you should not sniff it...

Not that I agree with it, but that's the argument.
We don't expect people to sniff glue or shoe polish every day so we shouldn't need to put warnings to tell people not to do it. But everybody smells his food, it's expected, and because of this, it should be perfectly safe to do so, even if it's the same thing, every day, twice a day for years.

Somebody gets it!!

There are a lot of things we don't expect people to do. Why is sniffing shoe polish fine?
We don't expect people to consume the same food twice a day for 10 years either, and if they didn't, they wouldn't have to sniff it. So where does your expectation lie?
And with that, where does ones responsibility lie?

I understand the argument, I just don't agree with it. I don't think that you should sue someone and win just because you lack common sense. Sadly, that is reality tho...

I am pretty sure that there are more foods, if used/consumed/sniffed twice a day for 10 year, that will evidently cause bodily harm.

[BeaverFever]

Brenda Brenda:

There are a lot of things we don't expect people to do. Why is sniffing shoe polish fine?

Because a reasonable person understands that shoe polish is not meant for human consumption.

$1:

We don't expect people to consume the same food twice a day for 10 years either, and if they didn't, they wouldn't have to sniff it. So where does your expectation lie? And with that, where does ones responsibility lie?

It is meant to be consumed, we expect people to consume it. Period. Frequency doesn't matter.

$1:

I just don't agree with it. I don't think that you should sue someone and win just because you lack common sense

. So tell me what does "common sense" tell you is the proper safe frequency for popcorn sniffing? Once a day for five years? Twice a week for 7 years? What's the threshold?

$1:

I am pretty sure that there are more foods, if used/consumed/sniffed twice a day for 10 year, that will evidently cause bodily harm.

In such cases, they are labelled as such or prohibited from sale entirely

[Brenda]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Brenda Brenda:

There are a lot of things we don't expect people to do. Why is sniffing shoe polish fine?

Because a reasonable person understands that shoe polish is not meant for human consumption.

That is not an argument. Reasonable people also understand that you shouldn't eat any food twice a day for 10 years.

$1:

$1:

We don't expect people to consume the same food twice a day for 10 years either, and if they didn't, they wouldn't have to sniff it. So where does your expectation lie? And with that, where does ones responsibility lie?

It is meant to be consumed, we expect people to consume it. Period. Frequency doesn't matter.

Of course it does. If we would only eat fast food, we would get so obese, it would kill us. It is freely available.

$1:

$1:

I just don't agree with it. I don't think that you should sue someone and win just because you lack common sense

. So tell me what does "common sense" tell you is the proper safe frequency for popcorn sniffing? Once a day for five years? Twice a week for 7 years? What's the threshold?

Common sense. You cannot tell me, that now he has only 53% lung capacity left, he never felt anything before that. Normal people stop doing something that doesn't work well for them. Others don't. We call them addicts. $7.2M for an addict?

$1:

$1:

I am pretty sure that there are more foods, if used/consumed/sniffed twice a day for 10 year, that will evidently cause bodily harm.

In such cases, they are labelled as such or prohibited from sale entirely

Nope. We take Pepto Bismol.
And go back to McDonalds for the next burger.

[SprCForr]

Ban the stuff.

For the children...

...WHO WILL THINK OF THE CHILDREN?! Even if it saves one life!

[ShepherdsDog]

$1:

That is not an argument. Reasonable people also understand that you shouldn't eat any food twice a day for 10 years.

damned fruit, vegetables and low fat dairy. I told the doctor he was wrong about eating more servings of them

[Brenda]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

$1:

That is not an argument. Reasonable people also understand that you shouldn't eat any food twice a day for 10 years.

damned fruit, vegetables and low fat dairy. I told the doctor he was wrong about eating more servings of them

Try eat only prunes for fruit

But, you're right. I should have said JUNK food.

[herbie]

What gets me is my vegan daughter would say "It hasn't any real butter! I can eat it."

WTF these fuckers would put tetraethyl lead in the fucking food to enhance the flavour if no one stopped them.

That's why I prefer the brown lunch bag full of Orville R's to the fold, in the microwave for three minutes with a shitload of salt and a LOT of real goddam butter every couple months. Better for you and tastes good too.
Also keeps the gene pool up eliminating people who'd eat two bags a day for 10 years, or wandering off in a daze cuz they can't pay attention for 3 minutes and set the house on fire.

[BeaverFever]

Brenda Brenda:

That is not an argument. Reasonable people also understand that you shouldn't eat any food twice a day for 10 years.

Any food??? Not carrots or tomatoes? What about water? No they don't "understand" that. Nor is that true. Even where it is true (such as junk food) it's not expected that they'll get lung disease from smelling it.

$1:

Of course it does. If we would only eat fast food, we would get so obese, it would kill us. It is freely available.

Like I said, if the guy was suing for obesity, I would agree with you. A reasonable person understands that overeating causes obseity, that specifically is common knowledge. Lung disease from smelling popcorn is not common knowledge, nor is it a logical conlusion. This guy was smelling the food. Should someone who works in a movie theatre expect to get lung disease because they smell popcorn all day everyday? I don't see them wearing protective masks.

$1:

Common sense. You cannot tell me, that now he has only 53% lung capacity left, he never felt anything before that.

1) You can't assume that his lung capacity noticeably diminished in stages over time. For all you know, the disease took a long time to develop and his symptoms then came on rapidly.
2)You can't assume once they did develop, popcorn was immediately known to be the obvious cause. Since it's not an obvious conclusion. Even the popcorn guys tried to deny the disease came fromt the popcorn and argued that he developed the disease at work (it seems they didn't have your 'common sense' defence- maybe you should have been their lawyer).

$1:

Normal people stop doing something that doesn't work well for them. Others don't. We call them addicts. $7.2M for an addict?

Sorry, I thought he was a human being. Now that you've slapped the pejorative "addict" label on him, I now see that he's a sub-human creature not entitled to recourse under the law. Furthermore, this whole conclusion is a great leap in logic.

$1:

Nope. We take Pepto Bismol.
And go back to McDonalds for the next burger.

As stated above, it's common knowledge that fast food has long-term health concerns if over consumed. Specifically diseases related to obesity and cholestorol and sodium. It's not common knowledge that smelling it will give you lung disease. Further, if it ppl who eat too much McDonalds started getting AIDS as a result, you couldn't just say to those AIDS victims "well common sense tells you not to eat too much McD". People are willing to accept some level of known risk for not eating healthy, but they can't be held responsible for risks they didn't reasonably know they were taking. Lung disease from frequent smelling of popcorn is not a known risk.

[Robair]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Now THAT doesn't make sense. ITS FOOD!!! What don't you understand? YOU EAT IT

Yea, I'm with Beaver skratch Fever on this one.

He developed lung disease from food .

There's actually a term for what he has, and they call it popcorn lung.

So I'll be sticking to my popcorn popper...

It tastes better than microwave stuff anyway.

[Lemmy]

I read that if you eat microwave popcorn, you actually get chemicals from the bag showing up your bloodstream. So I bought one of these Cuisinart oil-poppers:




before I'd even heard of "popcorn lung". I actually used Aeroplan miles on it, so it didn't cost me a cent. The popcorn tastes better than microwave and the kids get a kick out of watching it work.

[herbie]

That looks like a better machine than the old air popper thing that was louder than the vacuum cleaner and tossed popcorn everywhere that my kids used.
Somehow we ended up with, and decided out of sheer nostalgia to try a JiffyPop thing this summer. Bleaaaghhh!!!! Another thing like Spam that was only good in memories of camping as a kid.

[Brenda]

Lemmy Lemmy:

I read that if you eat microwave popcorn, you actually get chemicals from the bag showing up your bloodstream. So I bought one of these Cuisinart oil-poppers:




before I'd even heard of "popcorn lung". I actually used Aeroplan miles on it, so it didn't cost me a cent. The popcorn tastes better than microwave and the kids get a kick out of watching it work.

That's an awesome thing! I want that

[raydan]

Between the ages of 16 and 18, I worked 4 nights a week at the local movie theatre and one of the perps was free soda and popcorn. I won't even try to figure out how much popcorn I ate during those 3 years. I haven't had popcorn in years and pop in decades.

[andyt]

Brenda Brenda:

I guess lack of common sense makes you rich.

So you were born with the innate knowledge that popcorn aroma is bad for you? Don't you assume your food is safe? Do you hold your nose when you eat?