[Gunnair]

Curtman Curtman:

Unsound Unsound:

Gunnair Gunnair:

If they legalized pot tomorrow, would the pardons start flowing?

Curt?

Probably. Maybe we should pardon Louis Riel too after all. What the heck, yeah he broke the law, but he felt it was justified. He was fighting for freedom and equality.

Fighting for the legality of taking a toke on the deck is now comparable to fighting for freedom and equality?

[Curtman]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Fighting for the legality of taking a toke on the deck is now comparable to fighting for freedom and equality?

What were the farmers who got pardons fighting for?

They didn't have to grow wheat, they could grow something else if they wanted to trade on an open market.

Whats this about taking a toke on the deck?

[Gunnair]

Curtman Curtman:

Gunnair Gunnair:

Fighting for the legality of taking a toke on the deck is now comparable to fighting for freedom and equality?

What were the farmers who got pardons fighting for?

They didn't have to grow wheat, they could grow something else if they wanted to trade on an open market.

Whats this about taking a toke on the deck?

[Curtman]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Well you brought up the comparison, should people with drug charges get pardoned when prohibition ends, like the farmers?

$1:

Harper recalled how the farmers drove "a few loads of grain" across the border and were arrested and convicted for it.

Marc Emery mailed a few seeds. Whats the big deal? He didn't plant them. There's hundreds of places on both sides of the border to order seeds.

[RUEZ]

jeff744 jeff744:

I guess Harper is only tough on the stuff he makes a crime.

How's that then?

[RUEZ]

Curtman Curtman:

Well you brought up the comparison, should people with drug charges get pardoned when prohibition ends, like the farmers?

They have a right like any other criminal to apply for a pardon.

[Xort]

The WB should have been opt in rather than forced in. Even better the WB should a government operated farming enterprise selling it's own production.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Curtman Curtman:

Gunnair Gunnair:

Fighting for the legality of taking a toke on the deck is now comparable to fighting for freedom and equality?

What were the farmers who got pardons fighting for?

They didn't have to grow wheat, they could grow something else if they wanted to trade on an open market.

Whats this about taking a toke on the deck?

I'm sorry, but Riel is a ridiculous comparison. Did those farmers murder anybody??

[Benn]

Alta_redneck Alta_redneck:

"In one case, it was the gift of grain to a 4-H club," Harper said.

He's a retired local farmer from around here and was a WCB director for ten years, that gift was 1, 1 bushel bag of wheat.

From another article:

$1:

Jim Chatenay, one of the pardoned farmers, said he was "overwhelmed with happiness."

"Now we can have everything in our favour " It's just a glorious, wonderful day and this was well worth the wait."

The farmers were trying to get around a law at the time that said they had to sell their wheat and barley through the Canadian Wheat Board or get export permits from the agency.

Mr. Chatenay ran into trouble in 1996. The Alberta rancher was told to pay a $4,000 fine or face 64 days in jail for driving across the border to donate a bag of wheat to a 4H club in Montana. The case was in and out of court until 2002, when Mr. Chatenay was put behind bars.

"The time was long and slow. Played a lot of cards. Lockdowns were a little painful and scary "cause every once in a while we'd have to get moved around a little bit," he recalled.


In the end, Mr. Chatenay served 23 days. He joked that he got credit for good behaviour.

And in other news some dope who was playing a game of cat and mouse in traffic while texting (by his own admission) who ran down a girl using a controlled cross walk gets 30 days. Yes life is worth less than a bushel of grain.

And if you don't like that comparison there are a lot of hard core criminals getting less for a lot worse.

More to the topic, I'm not sure about the pardon. I'm not sure what precedent it sets for future changes to laws. If they were in jail right now for the crime then yes, let them out now that its not illegal, maybe, but a full pardon? Like the law or not they did know they were breaking it and should have been willing to live with the consequences.

[Curtman]

Benn Benn:

Alta_redneck Alta_redneck:

"In one case, it was the gift of grain to a 4-H club," Harper said.

He's a retired local farmer from around here and was a WCB director for ten years, that gift was 1, 1 bushel bag of wheat.

From another article:

$1:

Jim Chatenay, one of the pardoned farmers, said he was "overwhelmed with happiness."

"Now we can have everything in our favour " It's just a glorious, wonderful day and this was well worth the wait."

The farmers were trying to get around a law at the time that said they had to sell their wheat and barley through the Canadian Wheat Board or get export permits from the agency.

Mr. Chatenay ran into trouble in 1996. The Alberta rancher was told to pay a $4,000 fine or face 64 days in jail for driving across the border to donate a bag of wheat to a 4H club in Montana. The case was in and out of court until 2002, when Mr. Chatenay was put behind bars.

"The time was long and slow. Played a lot of cards. Lockdowns were a little painful and scary "cause every once in a while we'd have to get moved around a little bit," he recalled.


In the end, Mr. Chatenay served 23 days. He joked that he got credit for good behaviour.

And in other news some dope who was playing a game of cat and mouse in traffic while texting (by his own admission) who ran down a girl using a controlled cross walk gets 30 days. Yes life is worth less than a bushel of grain.

And if you don't like that comparison there are a lot of hard core criminals getting less for a lot worse.

More to the topic, I'm not sure about the pardon. I'm not sure what precedent it sets for future changes to laws. If they were in jail right now for the crime then yes, let them out now that its not illegal, maybe, but a full pardon? Like the law or not they did know they were breaking it and should have been willing to live with the consequences.

Link to article please. In other news gangsters made a fortune promoting drug use.

[Gunnair]

Curtman Curtman:

Benn Benn:

And in other news some dope who was playing a game of cat and mouse in traffic while texting (by his own admission) who ran down a girl using a controlled cross walk gets 30 days. Yes life is worth less than a bushel of grain.

And if you don't like that comparison there are a lot of hard core criminals getting less for a lot worse.

More to the topic, I'm not sure about the pardon. I'm not sure what precedent it sets for future changes to laws. If they were in jail right now for the crime then yes, let them out now that its not illegal, maybe, but a full pardon? Like the law or not they did know they were breaking it and should have been willing to live with the consequences.

Link to article please. In other news gangsters made a fortune promoting drug use.

Or

...gangsters made a fortune because drug users were happy to consciously fund them with their choice to indulge in their selfish and currently illegal desires...

[Curtman]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Curtman Curtman:

Benn Benn:

And in other news some dope who was playing a game of cat and mouse in traffic while texting (by his own admission) who ran down a girl using a controlled cross walk gets 30 days. Yes life is worth less than a bushel of grain.

And if you don't like that comparison there are a lot of hard core criminals getting less for a lot worse.

More to the topic, I'm not sure about the pardon. I'm not sure what precedent it sets for future changes to laws. If they were in jail right now for the crime then yes, let them out now that its not illegal, maybe, but a full pardon? Like the law or not they did know they were breaking it and should have been willing to live with the consequences.

Link to article please. In other news gangsters made a fortune promoting drug use.

Or

...gangsters made a fortune because drug users were happy to consciously fund them with their choice to indulge in their selfish and currently illegal desires...

Yep. So you can convince millions of drug users to stop through regulation to end the flow of billions of dollars into the hands of gangsters. And you can put that money toward enforcement of driving offences. Make the world a better place somehow instead of feeding the black market maybe.

As much as I enjoy the distraction, I would say that if prohibition ended, people with drug charges should be pardoned like the farmers. What say you Gunnair?

[Gunnair]

Curtman Curtman:

Gunnair Gunnair:

Curtman Curtman:

Link to article please. In other news gangsters made a fortune promoting drug use.

Or

...gangsters made a fortune because drug users were happy to consciously fund them with their choice to indulge in their selfish and currently illegal desires...

Yep. So you can convince millions of drug users to stop through regulation to end the flow of billions of dollars into the hands of gangsters. And you can put that money toward enforcement of driving offences. Make the world a better place somehow instead of feeding the black market maybe.

As much as I enjoy the distraction, I would say that if prohibition ended, people with drug charges should be pardoned like the farmers. What say you Gunnair?

No.

Nor should the farmers have been pardoned.

Try not to forget, Curt, as your begin the monthly crusade, that those millions of drug users are willfully supporting gangs and terrorists as they run out and purchase their pot, coke, etc.

Willfully...

Happily throwing cash at gangsters and terrorists.

Happily....

Yet you blame the government for the gangs and not those who selfishly support them to satisfy their narcissistic needs.

Telling.

[Unsound]

Gunnair, do you have just as much contempt for the rum/whiskey/scotch/vodka/beer drinkers of the 20s?

[Curtman]

Gunnair Gunnair:

No.

Nor should the farmers have been pardoned.

Try not to forget, Curt, as your begin the monthly crusade, that those millions of drug users are willfully supporting gangs and terrorists as they run out and purchase their pot, coke, etc.

Willfully...

Happily throwing cash at gangsters and terrorists.

Happily....

Yet you blame the government for the gangs and not those who selfishly support them to satisfy their narcissistic needs.

Telling.

If you say so. All that being true, its prohibition that makes it so. There's plenty of blame to go around, but prohibition has proven to be a failure at reducing numbers of drug users. The market grows every year with the current strategy.

Absolutely they should be pardoned. Where is the victim when those farmers drove grain across the border? It was illegal, but the law has been repealed. Why punish someone for something that isn't illegal anymore?

Do you refuse a Sleemans because of principles or because you need the hard stuff?