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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:56 pm
DrCaleb DrCaleb: But. . .but . . but - What if we run out of strippers? Anyone think of that? Then you'll have to start hiring the whores who work in Parliament. 
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:59 pm
I disagree with the definition.
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:07 pm
TattoodGirl TattoodGirl: Benn Benn: I'd have ot say a good, no brainer, call made here. Better than sucking the system dry of welfare...good money actually Yeaaa, but the school boards are generally made up of elected parents... Don't think too many parents would be in favour of allowing them to recruit strippers at their kid's school.
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:11 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: DrCaleb DrCaleb: But. . .but . . but - What if we run out of strippers? Anyone think of that? Then you'll have to start hiring the whores who work in Parliament.  Helena Guergis isn't in Parliament anymore. 
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:15 pm
I'm kinda torn here.
On the one hand we obviously do not want our high-school age kids getting recruited to work in a strip club. Although I may, personally, be ok with a stranger's 18 year-old daughter doing it. Cause I'm degenerate like that.
On the other hand, it is a legal business and do we really want the nanny state interfering with the legal choices that are offered to our children? If the girls were raised right they won't even look at the brochures.
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:35 pm
raydan raydan: I disagree with the definition. Too bad. It is what it is.
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:39 pm
Robair Robair: TattoodGirl TattoodGirl: Benn Benn: I'd have ot say a good, no brainer, call made here. Better than sucking the system dry of welfare...good money actually Yeaaa, but the school boards are generally made up of elected parents... Don't think too many parents would be in favour of allowing them to recruit strippers at their kid's school. Yet these same parents will no doubt have no problem with stopping in at the local peeler pub to have a couple cold ones after work........."golly, the place was so full the only table available was in gynecologist's row".... 
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:41 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: raydan raydan: I disagree with the definition. Too bad. It is what it is. In that case, I disagree with the word... morality is an artificial construct.
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:43 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: OnTheIce OnTheIce: As we've heard here before, who are we to enforce our morals on someone else? What about enforcing your lack of morals on anyone else? As long as you don't deny them firearms at least.
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:48 pm
raydan raydan: In that case, I disagree with the word... morality is an artificial construct. If morality is an artificial construct then amorality would be a natural state. Ergo, you're contradicting yourself when you deny the definition of amoral. 
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:51 pm
Gunnair Gunnair: BartSimpson BartSimpson: OnTheIce OnTheIce: As we've heard here before, who are we to enforce our morals on someone else? What about enforcing your lack of morals on anyone else? As long as you don't deny them firearms at least. Well, if you're going to insist that no one has a right to preach about morality then you've no right to prattle about someone else's possession of a firearm. Otherwise you're objecting to someone else's morality while enforcing your own.
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:55 pm
Since society determines what is moral or immoral, amoral would be our natural state. In an amoral state the individual would determine what is acceptable or unacceptable behaviour, rather than learning the mores of the society they are being raised in.
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:34 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: Gunnair Gunnair: BartSimpson BartSimpson:
What about enforcing your lack of morals on anyone else? As long as you don't deny them firearms at least. Well, if you're going to insist that no one has a right to preach about morality then you've no right to prattle about someone else's possession of a firearm. Otherwise you're objecting to someone else's morality while enforcing your own. Funny, I didn't preach about morality. You did.
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:41 pm
Morality/amorality, like beauty/ugliness, is in the eyes of the beholder. What you consider immoral, others see as moral. The pro-lifer sees the pro-choicer as immoral. The Christian sees the atheist as immoral... need I go on.
Morals also change over time and from society to society, so there is a cultural aspect to them.
They are simply rules we impose on ourselves, that we try to follow and that everybody has, but some are so alien to us, that we don't see them as rules at all. Some are so fundamental (do to others as you would have others do to you), that we automatically see people that don't follow these rules as immoral, when what they have are just different morals.
Because of this, I have problems saying that someone is immoral, in the sense that he has no morals. To have none, I think you'd have to be brain-dead.
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:47 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: OnTheIce OnTheIce: As we've heard here before, who are we to enforce our morals on someone else? What about enforcing your lack of morals on anyone else? Who said anything about my morals? Even so, what you have no morals, there's nothing to enforce. As many have said, your definition of "lack of morals" is seriously flawed. I personally don't care one way or another, but when we have legal strip clubs and we're telling young women "these clubs are a legitimate place to work" and then we turn around and tell the club owners they can't recruit...it's a mixed message of false "morality".
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