[Curtman]

Thanos Thanos:

Other generations used to fight their battles for freedom over such issues as government jack-boots kicking down your door over free speech. Or saving other people from slavery and genocide. Or believing in a different God than the one the King demanded you obey.

Today we base our fight for freedom on the demands of eternal teenagers who want to get high and sit on the couch eating Cheezies on the couch in the basement all day. Talk about being the wastrel children of a much, much lesser generation.

For at least the 50th time, its not about allowing people to smoke dope. They do that now in droves. Its about ending the expense and injustice of enforcing twisted morality on a nation of people who don't share those morals. Spend the money on treatment not prisons. Its a health issue, not a justice issue.

[andyt]

Thanos Thanos:

Today we base our fight for freedom on the demands of eternal teenagers who want to get high and sit on the couch eating Cheezies on the couch in the basement all day. Talk about being the wastrel children of a much, much lesser generation.

While the adults are getting gooned on alcohol upstairs?

Wonder if you and other posters on this forum would all of a sudden get all about your rights if the govt banned alcohol. It just makes no sense to ban pot when alcohol is legal. If I was Dick Tater I would ban them all. Put people having a beer on a hot summer's day in mandatory rehab, the alcoholic scum.

[OnTheIce]

Curtman Curtman:

Thanos Thanos:

Other generations used to fight their battles for freedom over such issues as government jack-boots kicking down your door over free speech. Or saving other people from slavery and genocide. Or believing in a different God than the one the King demanded you obey.

Today we base our fight for freedom on the demands of eternal teenagers who want to get high and sit on the couch eating Cheezies on the couch in the basement all day. Talk about being the wastrel children of a much, much lesser generation.

For at least the 50th time, its not about allowing people to smoke dope. They do that now in droves. Its about ending the expense and injustice of enforcing twisted morality on a nation of people who don't share those morals. Spend the money on treatment not prisons. Its a health issue, not a justice issue.

It's not a health issue, it's a mental issue. A mental issue that for some, turns into a health issue.

This desire to alter your state of mind isn't one that comes out of necessity. It's a choice you make where you feel you need to take substances to alter your mind.

[Curtman]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Curtman Curtman:

Thanos Thanos:

Other generations used to fight their battles for freedom over such issues as government jack-boots kicking down your door over free speech. Or saving other people from slavery and genocide. Or believing in a different God than the one the King demanded you obey.

Today we base our fight for freedom on the demands of eternal teenagers who want to get high and sit on the couch eating Cheezies on the couch in the basement all day. Talk about being the wastrel children of a much, much lesser generation.

For at least the 50th time, its not about allowing people to smoke dope. They do that now in droves. Its about ending the expense and injustice of enforcing twisted morality on a nation of people who don't share those morals. Spend the money on treatment not prisons. Its a health issue, not a justice issue.

It's not a health issue, it's a mental issue. A mental issue that for some, turns into a health issue.

This desire to alter your state of mind isn't one that comes out of necessity. It's a choice you make where you feel you need to take substances to alter your mind.

You don't think mental issues are health issues? In any case, its none of your business if someone smokes pot, drinks alcohol, eats McDonalds, etc. None of it is good, and none of it is necessary. But those are decisions you are free to make yourself. The law has proven to have no positive effect on those decisions. It only makes things worse for everyone.

[andyt]

Curtman Curtman:

You don't think mental issues are health issues? In any case, its none of your business if someone smokes pot, drinks alcohol, eats McDonalds, etc. None of it is good, and none of it is necessary. But those are decisions you are free to make yourself. The law has proven to have no positive effect on those decisions. It only makes things worse for everyone.

But marijuana is a drug!

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It makes you go crazy and axe murder your mother and then go on to harder stuff.

[OnTheIce]

Curtman Curtman:

You don't think mental issues are health issues? In any case, its none of your business if someone smokes pot, drinks alcohol, eats McDonalds, etc. None of it is good, and none of it is necessary. But those are decisions you are free to make yourself. The law has proven to have no positive effect on those decisions. It only makes things worse for everyone.

Let's just call it a 'mental health' issue.

When people's behaviour and habits have an effect on the people around them, taxpayers,law enforcement, health care professionals, it does become "our business" especially in a publicly funded health system.

That's why we as taxpayers spend millions(maybe billions) on education, prevention for things like smoking, drinking and food quality.

This whole "I can do what I want" attitude is juvenile.

[RUEZ]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

May as well legalize it. While you're at it you could also legalize polygamy, pedophillia, heroin, guns, and sharp pointy sticks.

Another Bartism. Sometimes I just don't know about you man.

[andyt]

Great, do the same for pot. Are you in favor of banning alcohol and McD's, both of which cause far more health problems than pot? If prohibition works for pot, why not have it for ETOH and grease/sugar/salt as well?

Any time you want to go on a crusade to keep pot illegal and ban alcohol, I would probably join you.

It's funny how the drinkers are the ones that want to keep pot illegal. If figure it has something to do with feeling virtuous: "I may be a drunk, but at least I'm not one of those illegal dope addicts."

[RUEZ]

andyt andyt:

Great, do the same for pot. Are you in favor of banning alcohol and McD's, both of which cause far more health problems than pot? If prohibition works for pot, why not have it for ETOH and grease/sugar/salt as well?

Any time you want to go on a crusade to keep pot illegal and ban alcohol, I would probably join you.

It's funny how the drinkers are the ones that want to keep pot illegal. If figure it has something to do with feeling virtuous: "I may be a drunk, but at least I'm not one of those illegal dope addicts."

I'm all for banning junk foods. Obesity is a far worse problem in NA than pot ever was.

[andyt]

RUEZ RUEZ:

andyt andyt:

Great, do the same for pot. Are you in favor of banning alcohol and McD's, both of which cause far more health problems than pot? If prohibition works for pot, why not have it for ETOH and grease/sugar/salt as well?

Any time you want to go on a crusade to keep pot illegal and ban alcohol, I would probably join you.

It's funny how the drinkers are the ones that want to keep pot illegal. If figure it has something to do with feeling virtuous: "I may be a drunk, but at least I'm not one of those illegal dope addicts."

I'm all for banning junk foods. Obesity is a far worse problem in NA than pot ever was.

The problem is that how do you define junk food. And of course the huge industry that's amassed against you that would rail about the loss of individual freedoms.

And, do you really want to create a fast food gang culture? 400 lb gangbangers pushing Baconators? Doing waddle bys?

[OnTheIce]

RUEZ RUEZ:

I'm all for banning junk foods. Obesity is a far worse problem in NA than pot ever was.

Obesity goes well beyond junk food.

[bootlegga]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

May as well legalize it. While you're at it you could also legalize polygamy, pedophillia, heroin, guns, and sharp pointy sticks.

[Freakinoldguy]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

May as well legalize it. While you're at it you could also legalize polygamy, pedophillia, heroin, guns, and sharp pointy sticks.

Sorry Bart but, this being Canada, with maybe the exception of pedophillia, our lax judicial system has (pretty much under the table) decriminalized everything else on your list.

[BartSimpson]

That's the case down here, too.

[BartSimpson]

RUEZ RUEZ:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

May as well legalize it. While you're at it you could also legalize polygamy, pedophillia, heroin, guns, and sharp pointy sticks.

Another Bartism. Sometimes I just don't know about you man.

I'm quite serious. Once you head down the path of embracing the libertine then what is the justification for outlawing so much else?

Seriously, if you legalize marijuana then why not legalize heroin? The arguments to ban heroin and marijuana are pretty much the same so why allow one argument and not the other?

As to polygamy and pedophilia sure you're prosecuting the Mormons...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/0 ... 98098.html

But then you do nothing about the Muslims who practice it openly and in open contempt of the law...

http://www.carylmatrisciana.com/site/in ... iew&id=164

So why not just legalize it and not have to deal with the thorny issue of telling the Muslims to obey the same laws you want the Mormons to obey?

Ditto with the guns. Law abiding people face all sorts of hurdles in gun ownership but the Mohawks who flagrantly smuggle guns in from the USA are more or less left alone.

As to the pointy sticks I don't know that they're banned anywhere in Canada but I'm sure that at least somewhere in Ontario or Quebec that they are.