[PublicAnimalNo9]

andyt andyt:

It would be nice, but there's no legal mechanism for it. And I'm not sure I would want one - what would be the basis for stripping someone of citizenship? I think if we want a free and open country, it does mean we're going to get played every so often. I think that's a price we have to be willing to pay.

Oh I dunno, I think treason and or sedition is a pretty compelling reason to strip an immigrant of their citizenship and send them packing.

[Brenda]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

andyt andyt:

It would be nice, but there's no legal mechanism for it. And I'm not sure I would want one - what would be the basis for stripping someone of citizenship? I think if we want a free and open country, it does mean we're going to get played every so often. I think that's a price we have to be willing to pay.

Oh I dunno, I think treason and or sedition is a pretty compelling reason to strip an immigrant of their citizenship and send them packing.

The point is, citizens are not immigrants anymore.
If you did something that would make someone think they should strip you from YOUR citizenship, where would you go?

The only thing you can do to be able to send immigrants back, is to not grant them citizenship.

[andyt]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

andyt andyt:

It would be nice, but there's no legal mechanism for it. And I'm not sure I would want one - what would be the basis for stripping someone of citizenship? I think if we want a free and open country, it does mean we're going to get played every so often. I think that's a price we have to be willing to pay.

Oh I dunno, I think treason and or sedition is a pretty compelling reason to strip an immigrant of their citizenship and send them packing.

Have they been charged, never mind convicted of that?

[2Cdo]

I think taking up arms against your "home" country should be enough to send his ass packing.

[martin14]

llama66 llama66:

why can't Canada strip the Khadar family of thier citizenship and deport them? I mean really, these people are not interested in what Canada is, they don't care about Canadians or thier values, tell me again why they are here? I'm all for people comming to this country so long as those people are here for the right reasons.

Its time for the Khadar family to be shown the door. (and this is from a "leftie"...)

Nice post 'leftie' there's hope for you yet

But I suspect you already know the answer.. even the Conservative government doesnt
have the balls to really do anything to this family of terrorists.

The howl from the lefty groups would be deafening, and while most people would
quietly support a decision to boot them, very few would actually step up,
for fear of being labelled as everything under the sun.

Such is life in our PC nonsense world.. too bad for us.


The real solution is to prevent people like this from ever entering the
country in the first place.. it is the Immigration Department that really let
us down, and needs to be completely overhauled.

[andyt]

Brenda Brenda:

The point is, citizens are not immigrants anymore.
If you did something that would make someone think they should strip you from YOUR citizenship, where would you go?

The only thing you can do to be able to send immigrants back, is to not grant them citizenship.

There's also the delicate point that no country may take them, since they're ours now.

[martin14]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

I think taking up arms against your "home" country should be enough to send his ass packing.

If he had killed Canadian soldiers, maybe.. but he isn't worth one of ours getting a hemorrhoid,

never mind anything else.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Brenda Brenda:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

andyt andyt:

It would be nice, but there's no legal mechanism for it. And I'm not sure I would want one - what would be the basis for stripping someone of citizenship? I think if we want a free and open country, it does mean we're going to get played every so often. I think that's a price we have to be willing to pay.

Oh I dunno, I think treason and or sedition is a pretty compelling reason to strip an immigrant of their citizenship and send them packing.

The point is, citizens are not immigrants anymore.
If you did something that would make someone think they should strip you from YOUR citizenship, where would you go?

It's not my problem now is it? The point is, traitors should no longer be citizens, period. Frankly, depending on the severity of the act, traitors should just be shot. Then it won't matter where they go.

Besides, when they start on about how much they despise the West and have to continually shield their children from our decadent, Western ways(Yes, Momma Khadr said shit to that effect), then we should oblige them and kick their asses out so they don't have to endure the "pain" of living here anymore.
Being "played" is not an acceptable price when the player is being blatantly obvious. That's called laying down and taking it.

[2Cdo]

martin14 martin14:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

I think taking up arms against your "home" country should be enough to send his ass packing.

If he had killed Canadian soldiers, maybe.. but he isn't worth one of ours getting a hemorrhoid,

never mind anything else.

He killed members of the country that we are fighting with, thus he was at war with us.

But I do agree with your last bit.

[Brenda]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Brenda Brenda:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

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Oh I dunno, I think treason and or sedition is a pretty compelling reason to strip an immigrant of their citizenship and send them packing.

The point is, citizens are not immigrants anymore.
If you did something that would make someone think they should strip you from YOUR citizenship, where would you go?

It's not my problem now is it?

Of course it is. They are just as much citizens of this country as you are.

$1:

The point is, traitors should no longer be citizens, period.

What about murderers, shoplifters? Can you just kick them out too?

$1:

Frankly, depending on the severity of the act, traitors should just be shot. Then it won't matter where they go.

I don't think the death penalty is still a punishment for any crime in Canada. Don't let your emotions rule you.

$1:

Besides, when they start on about how much they despise the West and have to continually shield their children from our decadent, Western ways(Yes, Momma Khadr said shit to that effect), then we should oblige them and kick their asses out so they don't have to endure the "pain" of living here anymore.
Being "played" is not an acceptable price when the player is being blatantly obvious. That's called laying down and taking it.

Immigration should have thought about that BEFORE they let them take the Citizenship test.

[andyt]

He hasn't been convicted of treason, doubt if he would be if charged, so that's a dead alley.

As for immigration vetting immigrants more carefully - the playahs will always lie low till they get their citizenship. No way to avoid it. It's like anything else, if we want a system of rule of law, there will always be some who manage to play that system. If we let them push us into abrogating the rule of law, it's the rest of us that will suffer. There's a price to be paid for freedom, and sometimes that price is that people use freedom against us. He hasn't committed a crime in Canada that I'm aware of. We just have to deal with him coming back. And maybe even being eligible for compensation. As Brock said, we don't change the rules on that for a case we don't like.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Brenda Brenda:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Brenda Brenda:

Oh I dunno, I think treason and or sedition is a pretty compelling reason to strip an immigrant of their citizenship and send them packing.

The point is, citizens are not immigrants anymore.
If you did something that would make someone think they should strip you from YOUR citizenship, where would you go?

It's not my problem now is it?

Brenda Brenda:

Of course it is. They are just as much citizens of this country as you are.

Not if they're acting like traitorous jack-holes they ain't.

$1:

The point is, traitors should no longer be citizens, period.

Brenda Brenda:

What about murderers, shoplifters? Can you just kick them out too?

Actually yes, any violent crime should also qualify. Shoplifting? No.

$1:

Frankly, depending on the severity of the act, traitors should just be shot. Then it won't matter where they go.

Brenda Brenda:

I don't think the death penalty is still a punishment for any crime in Canada. Don't let your emotions rule you.

Emotions rule me? Let's say the Toronto 18 or whatever they were called actually managed to blow up CBC headquarters and the CN Tower, yer telling me that a simple prison sentence should be sufficient punishment? Yer telling me that someone that gives away sensitive information to an enemy combatant that is used to kill Canadian or Allied soldiers should just get a prison sentence? As I said, death would depend on the severity of the act.

$1:

Besides, when they start on about how much they despise the West and have to continually shield their children from our decadent, Western ways(Yes, Momma Khadr said shit to that effect), then we should oblige them and kick their asses out so they don't have to endure the "pain" of living here anymore.
Being "played" is not an acceptable price when the player is being blatantly obvious. That's called laying down and taking it.

Brenda Brenda:

Immigration should have thought about that BEFORE they let them take the Citizenship test.

Right. Of course that's assuming the trouble makers aren't smart enough to keep the noise down until AFTER the test.

[SprCForr]

This Canadian says not one thin dime.

[Brenda]

Guess you gotta move to Southern US. Texas or something. They still have the death penalty.

[Brenda]

BTW, when it comes to citizenship, why is it 3 years? Why not 10? Or 15?