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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:56 am
I wonder why they don't give the name of the company in the aritcle. Paid advertiser in the newspaper perhaps? Enquiring minds want to know.
I was asked to do a drug test one time and told the company that it would never occur to me to show up for work under the influence of drugs. They smiled and sia d"sorry that's not good enough." And I said "Well then sorry, but if my word isn't good enough then I don't want to work for you." And walked out. Pretty sure I heard the HR fuckwit's jaw hit the desk as I did so. I guess that doesn't happen very often.
Sorry, peeing in a jar while a guy watches me do it fucking creeps me out.
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FieryVulpine 
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:33 am
It is as creepy as the TSA patting down a three-year-old boy.
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Brenda
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:38 am
My then 5 year old was patted down 7 years ago at Schiphol. That's common practice. Nothing to flip out about.
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andyt
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:28 am
I don't blame them for patting down kids. We've seen what the jihadiots are capable of, and that includes wiring up kids.
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:30 am
peck420 peck420: By show of hands, how many here have lost money from an indiscretion on social media?
Probably not many, judging by the response.
Call me when you have proprietary technology on display in the background because some idiot decided to post a pic of himself on Facebook with the caption "check out my cool new job!"
$250,000 in development $120,000 in testing $385,000 in new equipment
Competitor sending you an email (including that pic), before the product is released, saying "Thanks!"...Priceless.
And before anybody tells me to go after the employee...already did, best we can do is let him go, as there was 'no intent' to harm the business. Attributable to one or more of the following: Poor Candidate screening Poor training and policy communication on protection of propietary info Poor enforcement of the above If you had gotten this guy's FB login when he was hired, would you have really caught the post as soon as he made it and deleted it before anyone saw it? What, would you hire someone to monitor your employee's fb activity 24/7?
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Brenda
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:47 am
andyt andyt: I don't blame them for patting down kids. We've seen what the jihadiots are capable of, and that includes wiring up kids. Coke in babies diapers... It's actually nothing new and I don't understand the outcry.
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andyt
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:52 am
15 minutes of fame. And being spatial.
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Posts: 23565
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:00 am
Brenda Brenda: My then 5 year old was patted down 7 years ago at Schiphol. That's common practice. Nothing to flip out about. Disagree. Simply put, your five year old was patted down not because anyone honestly thought there was a chance he was a wired jihadist, or a coke mule, or packing gun. He was patted down because it's considered, by the vocal minority, politically incorrect to pat down those who fit the profile of one who would blow up a plane/transport coke/pack a gun. I for one do think it's a great reason to flip out. That my son gets a pat down looking for a bomb while a young Saudi/Pakistani/Afghan walks through with a 'Have a good day, sir'? Nope.
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andyt
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:03 am
Brenda Brenda: andyt andyt: I don't blame them for patting down kids. We've seen what the jihadiots are capable of, and that includes wiring up kids. Coke in babies diapers... It's actually nothing new and I don't understand the outcry. They got a positive for explosives before they ever patted that kid down, so they had good reason.
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:13 am
Strutz Strutz: Wow. I don't do facebook or twitter myself, so this would be a non-issue for me, but for those who do... would you reveal your login and password for a potential employer to see your info? 1. I do not have a social media page because of things like this. 2. I would not reveal my passwords to anyone if I did. 3. I would not work for somoene who'd ask for my passwords.
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Brenda
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:17 am
Gunnair Gunnair: Brenda Brenda: My then 5 year old was patted down 7 years ago at Schiphol. That's common practice. Nothing to flip out about. Disagree. Simply put, your five year old was patted down not because anyone honestly thought there was a chance he was a wired jihadist, or a coke mule, or packing gun. He was patted down because it's considered, by the vocal minority, politically incorrect to pat down those who fit the profile of one who would blow up a plane/transport coke/pack a gun. I for one do think it's a great reason to flip out. That my son gets a pat down looking for a bomb while a young Saudi/Pakistani/Afghan walks through with a 'Have a good day, sir'? Nope. I asked, why her? Can't you take me? She's only 5. Their answer? Nope, she came through the detection gates before you did, she is the number I counted that I was given to pat down. I don't necessarily care. I think if they have a suspicion, they would pat down the young other one too. Just because she is white does not make her less of a coke smuggler. Or a potential bomber. I wouldn't mind if they patted down every one. NO exceptions.
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andyt
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:26 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson: Strutz Strutz: Wow. I don't do facebook or twitter myself, so this would be a non-issue for me, but for those who do... would you reveal your login and password for a potential employer to see your info? 1. I do not have a social media page because of things like this. 2. I would not reveal my passwords to anyone if I did. 3. I would not work for somoene who'd ask for my passwords. You probably don't have to, but this is the new way. The corporate overlords will not be denied. You wish to partake in our wonderful consumer society, have the latest Icrap, you must obey your masters.
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:53 pm
Lemmy Lemmy: So what's the correct answer to give when asked for your facebook login? If I'm a human resources person, I think I WANT the guy across the table to tell me to fuck off. Aren't I looking to hire a candidate with some character and integrity? I wouldn't want someone working for me who'd offer up confidential information easily. Nope, they are looking for obedience and loyalty. No company wants a potential naysayer or whistleblower in their ranks
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Brenda
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:58 pm
BeaverFever BeaverFever: Lemmy Lemmy: So what's the correct answer to give when asked for your facebook login? If I'm a human resources person, I think I WANT the guy across the table to tell me to fuck off. Aren't I looking to hire a candidate with some character and integrity? I wouldn't want someone working for me who'd offer up confidential information easily. Nope, they are looking for obedience and loyalty. No company wants a potential naysayer or whistleblower in their ranks They won't get my log in to my email either, nor my house keys or my PIN code. I would not want to work for a company that wants to know so much about my private life. They pay me to do my job during office hours, not to share my life with them 24/7/365. If they want that, they have to pay me VERY VERY well. And they won't. So the answer stays "no".
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:31 pm
A US poster on one of the news sites makes a valid point [Canadianized terms mine]: $1: Federal and [Provincial] Laws prohibit prospective employers from asking certain questions that are not related to the job they are hiring for. This is covered under the [Human Rights]act. Employers should not be asking about your race, gender, religion, marital status, age, disabilities, ethnic background, country of origin, or sexual preferences. ALL of which are clearly available for them to see on FACEBOOK. Every employer doing this is breaking the law NOW! If you are a employee prospect being asked to do so, file a charge, contact an attorney who handles labor issues or contact your [Human Rights/Employement Standards] regulator and explain to them that Facebook contains these disclosures discussed above so that they can understand how your rights are being violated.
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