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andyt
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Posts: 33492
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:47 am
OnTheIce OnTheIce: andyt andyt: You were whining about pickup owners. I'm saying that there's a fairer way to price this, with either gasoline taxes or road use fees. The more your drive, the more you should pay. I believe they mentioned $30 a year, so it's not like it's a big deal either way, and I certainly do want money spent on transit.
If the province doesn't want to approve higher gas taxes, then the province should kick in the money needed. Whining? It was insinuated that people with pick-ups drive alone to commute, which isn't always the case. Just stating a fact. OnTheIce OnTheIce: bootlegga bootlegga: $1: At a March 7 meeting, the TransLink mayors' council passed a motion asking the province for the legal right to implement a regional carbon tax; additional fuel tax; and vehicle registration fees based on fuel consumption, engine size and emissions.  I've suggested that myself once or twice in the past - with a caveat being if a business can prove it needs such a vehicle, it would pay normal registration fees. It's just ridiculous how many huge V8-engined pick-ups I see here in Edmonton with only one passenger driving to and from work. I'm not sure more carbon taxes are needed too though - I'd say one or the other. Amazingly enough, some people that drive trucks alone, use them to make a living. Another retarded idea. Nuff said.
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OnTheIce 
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Posts: 10666
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:54 am
andyt andyt: Nuff said.
And you think that's whining? 
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andyt
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Posts: 33492
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:57 am
Well, I've seen you do better, but sure it is. OMG, they're going to charge the poor pickup driver more than the Mazda 2 driver. The horror.
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OnTheIce 
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Posts: 10666
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:59 am
andyt andyt: Well, I've seen you do better, but sure it is. OMG, they're going to charge the poor pickup driver more than the Mazda 2 driver. The horror. I'm amazed that you don't do better for yourself andy, considering you know everything. I've never seen anyone like you with the ability to tell the thought process someone has when posting on the Internet. You have a gift. 
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andyt
CKA Uber
Posts: 33492
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:03 pm
OnTheIce OnTheIce: andyt andyt: Well, I've seen you do better, but sure it is. OMG, they're going to charge the poor pickup driver more than the Mazda 2 driver. The horror. I'm amazed that you don't do better for yourself andy, considering you know everything. I've never seen anyone like you with the ability to tell the thought process someone has when posting on the Internet. You have a gift.  Well with a normal person, that would be the thought process to be inferred. But I guess I have to cut you some slack here. For all I know you support the measure, you just don't know how to express yourself very well.
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Posts: 23091
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:10 pm
andyt andyt: bootlegga bootlegga: $1: At a March 7 meeting, the TransLink mayors' council passed a motion asking the province for the legal right to implement a regional carbon tax; additional fuel tax; and vehicle registration fees based on fuel consumption, engine size and emissions.  I've suggested that myself once or twice in the past - with a caveat being if a business can prove it needs such a vehicle, it would pay normal registration fees. It's just ridiculous how many huge V8-engined pick-ups I see here in Edmonton with only one passenger driving to and from work. I'm not sure more carbon taxes are needed too though - I'd say one or the other. I don't agree with the vehicle levy, tho my vehicle will pay a small one. I barely drive, very few km a year, why should I pay the same levy as somebody in the same vehicle who's using the roads every day? A gas tax is the best solution because it's based on how much you drive as well as how much fuel your vehicle uses. I might agree if BC didn't already have a carbon tax - one carbon tax is plenty. Translink should be asking the province for a hand-out, not individuals.
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Posts: 23091
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:10 pm
OnTheIce OnTheIce: bootlegga bootlegga: $1: At a March 7 meeting, the TransLink mayors' council passed a motion asking the province for the legal right to implement a regional carbon tax; additional fuel tax; and vehicle registration fees based on fuel consumption, engine size and emissions.  I've suggested that myself once or twice in the past - with a caveat being if a business can prove it needs such a vehicle, it would pay normal registration fees. It's just ridiculous how many huge V8-engined pick-ups I see here in Edmonton with only one passenger driving to and from work. I'm not sure more carbon taxes are needed too though - I'd say one or the other. Amazingly enough, some people that drive trucks alone, use them to make a living. Another retarded idea. Not nearly as retarded as someone who can't read... 
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Posts: 19986
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:33 pm
QBall QBall: $1: District of North Vancouver Mayor Richard Walton, who chairs the mayors' council, told CTV News that there really isn't an alternative to imposing more costs on taxpayers. This may sound crazy, but how about imposing the costs onto the people who use the system by raising fares rather than expecting those who don't use the system to make up the shortfall? That is the most logical thing to do, let those that use it pay for it, that being said, since it involves a logical solution to the problem in BC that ain't never going to happen!
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Posts: 15102
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:36 pm
It's stories like this that make me wish I still lived in Alberta.
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OnTheIce 
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Posts: 10666
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:41 pm
bootlegga bootlegga: Not nearly as retarded as someone who can't read...  The carbon tax as a whole was/is the retarded idea....but thanks for the effort. ![Drink up [B-o]](./images/smilies/drinkup.gif)
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Posts: 14139
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:51 pm
OnTheIce OnTheIce: bootlegga bootlegga: Not nearly as retarded as someone who can't read...  The carbon tax as a whole was/is the retarded idea....but thanks for the effort. ![Drink up [B-o]](./images/smilies/drinkup.gif) No, what was retarded was my neighbour in Cambridge who obviously "needed" his Ford F-250 to drive the 3/4 of a mile to the Toyota plant where he worked. The dumb shit couldn't even be bothered springing for a tonneau cover to at least cut down on drag.
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Posts: 65472
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:56 pm
andyt andyt: So the dump trucks should pay no more than a guy who drives his Honda Fit twice a week? They do. If you use more fuel you pay more use tax to support the roads. If anything, the people who use electric cars and etc. are defrauding the rest of us who are paying for the roads on our own.
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:30 pm
Crap like this scares the hell out of me.
It's like the toll on the Golden Ears Bridge which, started off for the locals and then suddenly became a toll for anyone from anywhere in the Province who used the bridge especially after Translink got the BC Motor Vehicle Branch to stop issuing Drivers licenses if you hadn't paid their fucking troll toll.
So given that the thieves in Translink have the Governments ear and a penchant for screwing everyone equally I can see this new carbon tax being applied for all of BC to help pay for the Lower Mainlands rapid transit concerns and the Translink appointees huge salaries.
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Brenda
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Posts: 50938
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:42 pm
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy: Crap like this scares the hell out of me.
It's like the toll on the Golden Ears Bridge which, started off for the locals and then suddenly became a toll for anyone from anywhere in the Province who used the bridge especially after Translink got the BC Motor Vehicle Branch to stop issuing Drivers licenses if you hadn't paid their fucking troll toll.
So given that the thieves in Translink have the Governments ear and a penchant for screwing everyone equally I can see this new carbon tax being applied for all of BC to help pay for the Lower Mainlands rapid transit concerns and the Translink appointees huge salaries. And the roads stay as crappy as they are here because there is no money to repair/replace them. The rest of BC is beyond Hope... Public transit here is not great/hardly available. Why should I have to pay for the huge salaries for people who don't even realize BC is bigger than the Lower Mainland?
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:22 pm
Brenda Brenda: Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy: Crap like this scares the hell out of me.
It's like the toll on the Golden Ears Bridge which, started off for the locals and then suddenly became a toll for anyone from anywhere in the Province who used the bridge especially after Translink got the BC Motor Vehicle Branch to stop issuing Drivers licenses if you hadn't paid their fucking troll toll.
So given that the thieves in Translink have the Governments ear and a penchant for screwing everyone equally I can see this new carbon tax being applied for all of BC to help pay for the Lower Mainlands rapid transit concerns and the Translink appointees huge salaries. And the roads stay as crappy as they are here because there is no money to repair/replace them. The rest of BC is beyond Hope... Public transit here is not great/hardly available. Why should I have to pay for the huge salaries for people who don't even realize BC is bigger than the Lower Mainland? Because in the immortal words of Gordon Campbell "what's good for Vancouver is good for BC" 
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