[redhatmamma]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

andyt andyt:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

I'll not argue with any of that andy, but it is nice to know how many guns are in the rural beat, especially when a rural cops back-up could be 12 hours away.

Mayerthorpe changed a lot of attitudes in policing.

I think the attitude should be to go in expecting guns and be pleasantly surprised if that's not the case.

The cops at Mayerthorpe seemed a bit clueless. The rest of the population knew this guy was trouble, why didn't they? Don't they have their ear to the ground?

Don't armchair this one andy. The RCMP paid a big price for their actions that day.

Where they registered ?

[redhatmamma]

Well, looky here - who said they didn't want to confiscate all guns !
Seizing guns from delinquent gun owners is a lot easier and much less risky than going after gangs armed with unregistered weapons. It's being seen to be doing something and fits right in with Miller's style of governance.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/ ... eized.html

$1:

Toronto police have seized more than 2,000 guns since they launched their Safe City Project in March 2009. The program targets gun owners who have let their licences expire, or who are not storing their guns safely.

Police said Friday that what was once a temporary program is now a permanent approach to firearms safety. But not everyone is happy with that. "I don't like the whole way the thing was handled," said Peter Alexander Por, who owns a 12-gauge shotgun and a .22-calibre rifle.

He said Toronto police recently phoned him to remind him his gun licence had expired. Fifteen minutes later, he said, they were at the door demanding that he hand over the guns. "I thought it was intimidating. Am I going to say no? I am a law abiding citizen," he said. Det. Const. Nadine Teeft of the Toronto Gun and Gang Task Force said most of the guns seized are from owners who have let their licences lapse. "The whole point of the program is not to make criminals out of law-abiding citizens. It's to make people more compliant or compliant with the laws as they are now. We are not charging anybody. We seize the firearms for safekeeping," Teeft said.

If I wereparanoid I might be thinking that the seizures are nicely timed for the long gun registry bill before the House this week. I might even think the Toronto police chief was snubbing the government. Why I might even suspect that the mayor and his top cop were lending support to Ignatieff as Parliament reconvenes.
The Toronto branch of the Libranos wouldn't do something as blatant as that surely.

[fifeboy]

redhatmamma redhatmamma:

Well, looky here - who said they didn't want to confiscate all guns !
Seizing guns from delinquent gun owners is a lot easier and much less risky than going after gangs armed with unregistered weapons. It's being seen to be doing something and fits right in with Miller's style of governance.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/ ... eized.html

$1:

Toronto police have seized more than 2,000 guns since they launched their Safe City Project in March 2009. The program targets gun owners who have let their licences expire, or who are not storing their guns safely.

Keep your PAL updated because the law says you have to have one (or a possession only licence) to own a firearm. It also says you have to store them in a safe manner. Problem?

[Gunnair]

redhatmamma redhatmamma:

Well, looky here - who said they didn't want to confiscate all guns !
Seizing guns from delinquent gun owners is a lot easier and much less risky than going after gangs armed with unregistered weapons. It's being seen to be doing something and fits right in with Miller's style of governance.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/ ... eized.html

$1:

Toronto police have seized more than 2,000 guns since they launched their Safe City Project in March 2009. The program targets gun owners who have let their licences expire, or who are not storing their guns safely.

Police said Friday that what was once a temporary program is now a permanent approach to firearms safety. But not everyone is happy with that. "I don't like the whole way the thing was handled," said Peter Alexander Por, who owns a 12-gauge shotgun and a .22-calibre rifle.

He said Toronto police recently phoned him to remind him his gun licence had expired. Fifteen minutes later, he said, they were at the door demanding that he hand over the guns. "I thought it was intimidating. Am I going to say no? I am a law abiding citizen," he said. Det. Const. Nadine Teeft of the Toronto Gun and Gang Task Force said most of the guns seized are from owners who have let their licences lapse. "The whole point of the program is not to make criminals out of law-abiding citizens. It's to make people more compliant or compliant with the laws as they are now. We are not charging anybody. We seize the firearms for safekeeping," Teeft said.

If I wereparanoid I might be thinking that the seizures are nicely timed for the long gun registry bill before the House this week. I might even think the Toronto police chief was snubbing the government. Why I might even suspect that the mayor and his top cop were lending support to Ignatieff as Parliament reconvenes.
The Toronto branch of the Libranos wouldn't do something as blatant as that surely.

Mtbr?

[fifeboy]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Mtbr?

My first thought was Sasquatch2, but realized there were more than 5 lines without a mention of global warming fraud. All I can do is agree with you

[redhatmamma]

If my fishing licence expires will they come and take my rods ?

I don't know what MTBR is

[ASLplease]

mountainbiker

[Zipperfish]

$1:

Mtbr?

Doubt it. Spelled "unregistered" correctly and used the word "governance" in a sentence.

[Lemmy]

redhatmamma redhatmamma:

If my fishing licence expires will they come and take my rods ?

If you fish with them, yes. They'll also take your boat, your trailer and your truck.

[fifeboy]

redhatmamma redhatmamma:

If my fishing licence expires will they come and take my rods ?

I don't know what MTBR is

And today is Monday, which has about as much relevance to the present topic as what you said.

[ASLplease]

fifeboy fifeboy:

redhatmamma redhatmamma:

If my fishing licence expires will they come and take my rods ?

I don't know what MTBR is

And today is Monday, which has about as much relevance to the present topic as what you said.

his post is more relevant than your post.

[fifeboy]

ASLplease ASLplease:

his post is more relevant than your post.

Only to you, which makes your point....well, you know.

[redhatmamma]

The point is, the registry has not saved one life...

It appears that this bill will fail, which is too bad as those so blinded by ideology, as in the CBC et al. Candice Hoeppner's bill to repeal the long-gun registry responds to the homegrown frustration of Canadians who realize that the long-gun registry is wasteful, ineffective, does nothing to address real crime and penalizes law-abiding farmers, hunters and rural and Northern Canadians.

Too bad they don't put these wasted resources into more policing and catching the real criminals with those unregistered guns...

[ASLplease]

a private members bill is only one way to deal with the registry.

a court challenge is another way.

my hats off to this guy: http://www.brucemontague.ca/html/0002.html

Bruce Montague is an ordinary Canadian who has been charged under the Firearms Act. On September 11, 2004 Bruce was arrested and jailed for 11 days for violation of the licensing and registration terms of the Firearms Act. Police officers then conducted a 36 hour search of the Montague home, seizing and confiscating Bruce's firearms, ammunition and other property, including computers, binoculars, scopes and books.

What started this? Bruce is a model citizen with no criminal record, and has an excellent community and business reputation. But as a hunter and gunsmith from northern Ontario, Bruce Montague has boldly and actively opposed the Liberal government's illegitimate gun law by nonviolent public protest and peaceful non-compliance.

[redhatmamma]

indeed,
My Dad is Back in Jail- Supreme Court of Canada Refuses to Hear Appeal

My Dad, (Bruce Montague) is back in jail as of Wednesday Sept 15th 2010.

He was required to surrender himself to jail before the Supreme Court of
Canada would release their decision on whether or not to hear his appeal.

On Thursday, September 16, almost six years to the day after he was arrested, the Supreme Court of Canada issued their one-line decision about whether they'd hear his case:

DISMISSED WITHOUT COSTS

It would be an understatement to say that we are disappointed with the Supreme Court decision. As a result, he will have to finish out his 18-month sentence for violating Canada's Firearms Act. If you're the praying type, please pray for my Dad while he is in jail and for his early parole as soon as he is eligible.

Thanks.

- - - - - - -

Forfeiture of our Family Home

If you've been following my Dad's case, you'll remember that the Ontario Attorney General seized our family home using Ontario's Proceeds of Crime Act on September 14th, 2005.

Ontario Senior Counsel James McKeachie did this without informing my parents about it, and after my parents DID find out about it, tried re-assuring them by saying, "we will wait until you have exhausted your appeals before re-opening this case."

He has graciously allowed my parents to keep living in the home until the appeals process was complete, and said he would proceed regardless of the outcome of the criminal trial.

So now my Dad is back in jail, and my Mom is dealing with the impending commencement of the house seizure.

Now that the Supreme Court of Canada has refused to hear my Dad's case, the appeals process is over.

There is one possible exception though. The Supreme Court rules have what amounts to a faint hope clause that allows my Dad to apply for a "Reconsideration" of their decision. But whether my Dad applies for this reconsideration or not, one thing is practically certain: Ontario's attorney General will restart the process for stealing our family's home.
If you have any information about how to fight the house seizure in court, please let me know so I can pass it on to my Mom.

I ask for your prayers for her and our entire family as we deal with this latest assault on our freedom.

Katey Montague
Katey's Rights and Freedom Bulletin Sept 18, 2010

http://kateysfirearmsfacts.com/Bulletin ... reedom%20B
ulletin%20No.%203.pdf

http://kateysfirearmsfacts.com/Bulletin/

what happened to that proposed "amnesty" for licensing of firearms