Donny_Brasco wrote:
PJB PJB:
Donny...What,exactly, is rightfully yours?
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I have a constitutionally protected right to have the agreements that your grandfathers made to mine honoured.
As do I. You often forget that.
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You have the right to live in this country because I honour my end of the bargain, to share this land with you.
We offer you that right as well. We have kept you on regardless of the fact that at times the liability feels like it outweighs the benefits.
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My rights and obligations and just as legally binding as yours are.
Ditto.
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Unfortunately the crown, and ultimately you, are responsible for the poor decision making and ethnocentric nature of your people from the moment you signed treaty up until now.
Unfortunately, native communities and ultimately you are responsible for the poor decision making and ethnocentric nature of your people from the moment you signed the treaty until now.
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We may not be able to recapture the 200 years or more we lost because we were confined to our reserves living under corrupt Indian agents who pilfered our lands and denied us the opportunity to join your way of living unless we renounced our Indian status.
You signed treaties that required you to stay put. I thought you were all for treaties.
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But we will, at every opportunity hold you accountable for those mistakes - and more importantly in your courts and on your terms we are doing just that.
Tell me how that works out for you. Until you become accountable for yourselves, don't expect everyone else to carry you in perpetuity.
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I have no intention of letting bygones be bygones as long as our standards of living and our employment rates and our levels of health lag behind that of non-Aboriginals.
Donny, I'll go out on a limb here and surmise that no one really cares how much you stew over this.
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And I have said may ties that our people have alot of work to do ourselves. But the time that you get to dictate our progress has passed. The days that we accept your words and promises and fail to hold you accountable for every blade of grass that you own because of our generosity has ended.
You mention it rarely, and without any real force. There is so much that your own communities are responsible for. The reserve nearby is filthy and full of every negative sterotype I can imagine - and I believe it to be onw of the better ones. At the very least, show some community responsibility and clean up your act.
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Our forefathers envisioned us sharing this land and traveling down the river as two equal, but separate people in seperate canoes. Turns out that as we helped you and made promises to you - promises that you were required to make through your own laws, your people stole, and defrauded and hindered our participation in the building of the civilization that you claim that we do not care to participate in today.
It should be painfully apparent that an unwillingness to amalgamate your culture into the dominant one was a mistake. When the elephant rolls over in its sleep... well, you get the picture.
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My grandfather fought beside your grandfathers for Canada in WW2. In return he was sent back to the reserve as a pauper, poor, same as he was when he went to fight for the freedom of all of us. In the meantime your grandfathers enjoyed land grants, credit, pensions...
Could he have left the reserve?
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And you chastise me and the rest of us people who are descendents our noble grandfathers like you have some sort of honour or integrity left after 150+ years of assimilation, greed and apartheid?
Were you not allowed to leave the reserve?
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Today our victories are not sentimental, emotional or gifts from the Crown or you out of kindness. They are legal proceedings with actual legal consequences resulting from the innate dishonesty that your culture seems to be inflicted with.
But your defeats result from domestic terrorism.
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And I don’t apologise for the state of my people today. We are responsible for our own rebuilding. But that includes holding each and every Canadian liable for every shred or harm that has ever been inflicted on us and our forefathers.
The cult of victimhood is not ultimately a mark of progress. Ask the Irish and the Scots.
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What is rightfully mine? It is rightfully mine to hold you and every Canadian accountable for the land you live on and to the original keepers of this land.
No it's not. You lost the right through treaty and conquest. History is not always nice, but the facts are there. No end of forum fury will change that, Donny.
CKA Uber 
