[Benoit]

CanadianGigolo CanadianGigolo:

Benoit Benoit:

To me, Mr. Cadman said quite clearly June 12, 2005 he was offered bribes.

How can that be a bribe, when the offer comes from a party that you once belong to?
Maybe the Conservatives ask him if he wanted to come back? Can't see that as a bribe?
And if he did come back, the Liberals wouldn't be able to say anything.
Just think they're try anything to get into the lime lite , even if it means digging up the dead , which is a new low for the Liberals!!

Sammy

Buying vote takes a little bit more time to write than bribing.

[CanadianGigolo]

DerbyX DerbyX:

CanadianGigolo CanadianGigolo:

Benoit Benoit:

ryan29 ryan29:

Benoit Benoit:

ryan29 ryan29:

but it should really be up to her to prove these claims , mean what insuarnce company was she claiming involved ? where is the paper work or any voice evidence offering him this policy ? i don't think there is any .

and of course the big question why did he not say anything about this to the press before his death ?

- Insurance sellers have enough bad reputation, don't add to it.

- Because journalists haven't asked precisely.

but can't deny that many insurance experts have been quoted as saying such a policy would be impossible to get , some even said to give one out they would of had to pay full amount of 1 million dollars since he was terminally ill . does this sound like something they would of done before an election when they needed ever dollar for a campaign . plus the risk involved is too high i would think , mean he could of just went to the media then if he wanted to do , but he didn't and said nothign like this was offered .

To me, Mr. Cadman said quite clearly June 12, 2005 he was offered bribes.

How can that be a bribe, when the offer comes from a party that you once belong to?
Maybe the Conservatives ask him if he wanted to come back? Can't see that as a bribe?
And if he did come back, the Liberals wouldn't be able to say anything.
Just think they're try anything to get into the lime lite , even if it means digging up the dead , which is a new low for the Liberals!!

Sammy

A new low for the Liberals? YES!!! new low! You don't understand that?
Someone draw a map pleaze!

$1:

"To me, it really crossed the line. The only possible way they could have swayed him was to go after the family in a sense, to have them taken care of," said Cadman. "My first reaction was I was hurt, very hurt, and I started crying."

It wasn't the Liberals dangling a plum reward in front of him.

[Benoit]

CanadianGigolo CanadianGigolo:

A new low for the Liberals? YES!!! new low!

A Liberals' low doesn't cancel a Conservatives' low.

[ryan29]

Benoit Benoit:

CanadianGigolo CanadianGigolo:

A new low for the Liberals? YES!!! new low!

A Liberals' low doesn't cancel a Conservatives' low.

remember they have yet to prove the cpc did anything illegal , so for now its accusations that have not been proven in court . everyone who is trying to balme cpc and harper need to remember that and all the other false claims that have happened in politics in last few years .

[Dayseed]

Goddamn Ryan, quit being a partisan apologist. Next time the Liberals pull an underhanded move, you had better be the first to rush to their defence with the same moral persuasion.

[Benoit]

ryan29 ryan29:

Benoit Benoit:

CanadianGigolo CanadianGigolo:

A new low for the Liberals? YES!!! new low!

A Liberals' low doesn't cancel a Conservatives' low.

remember they have yet to prove the cpc did anything illegal , so for now its accusations that have not been proven in court . everyone who is trying to balme cpc and harper need to remember that and all the other false claims that have happened in politics in last few years .

First, remember we have yet to hear what Mr. Flanagan and Finley have to say for their defense.

[ryan29]

Benoit Benoit:

ryan29 ryan29:

Benoit Benoit:

CanadianGigolo CanadianGigolo:

A new low for the Liberals? YES!!! new low!

A Liberals' low doesn't cancel a Conservatives' low.

remember they have yet to prove the cpc did anything illegal , so for now its accusations that have not been proven in court . everyone who is trying to balme cpc and harper need to remember that and all the other false claims that have happened in politics in last few years .

First, remember we have yet to hear what Mr. Flanagan and Finley have to say for their defense.

have you been paying attention they already released a statement the day this story broke denying that any ilegal offer was made and that they only talked to him in an attempt to get him to come back to cpc and offered him help in winning nomination and campaign help which is not illegal to offer .

[ryan29]

Dayseed Dayseed:

Goddamn Ryan, quit being a partisan apologist. Next time the Liberals pull an underhanded move, you had better be the first to rush to their defence with the same moral persuasion.

no derby will and he will be asking the same questions i asked , like where is the proof and the evidence that anything wrong actually happened . and saying how the liberals did nothing wrong ever .

[Benoit]

ryan29 ryan29:

have you been paying attention they already released a statement the day this story broke denying that any ilegal offer was made and that they only talked to him in an attempt to get him to come back to cpc and offered him help in winning nomination and campaign help which is not illegal to offer .

It's too easy a way out. In a trial, they will have to go through a counter-interrogation by the attorneys who will put forward the story of the Cadman family.

[ryan29]

Benoit Benoit:

ryan29 ryan29:

have you been paying attention they already released a statement the day this story broke denying that any ilegal offer was made and that they only talked to him in an attempt to get him to come back to cpc and offered him help in winning nomination and campaign help which is not illegal to offer .

It's too easy a way out. In a trial, they will have to go through a counter-interrogation by the attorneys who will put forward the story of the Cadman family.

yeah the same people who don't have a single piece of solid evidence to back up this rediclous claim . sure that will be interesting to se what they pull out of there ass as evidence .

some possiblities

- a visit to a physic

- dreams and visions she has had

- random charatcher witnesses who know her in high school


- the cashier at the local tim hortons who serves he coffer and thinks she is friendly

[Benoit]

ryan29 ryan29:

yeah the same people who don't have a single piece of solid evidence to back up this rediclous claim . sure that will be interesting to se what they pull out of there ass as evidence .

some possiblities

- a visit to a physic

- dreams and visions she has had

- random charatcher witnesses who know her in high school


- the cashier at the local tim hortons who serves he coffer and thinks she is friendly

Bottom line: Proposing to help a terminally-ill man to wage an electoral campaign is not credible at all.

[Wally_Sconce]

I'm a little bit surprised at the level of reaction to the disclosures in Tom Zytaruk's book and I guess that's probably because it was put to rest in my mind, when I discussed the matter with Stephen Harper, 2 ½ years ago. At that time, I recall specifically asking him if he was aware of a million dollar insurance policy offer, that upset Chuck so much.

He looked me straight in the eyes and told me he had no knowledge of an insurance policy offer. I knew he was telling me the truth; I could see it in his eyes. He said, yes he'd had some discussions with two individuals about asking Chuck to rejoin the party, but he'd told them they were wasting their time trying to convince Chuck.

From that point forward.... I didn't regard it as a "Party" initiative, but rather; the overzealous indiscretion of a couple of individuals.... whose identity, Chuck never revealed to me.

It all comes back to my conversation with the Prime Minister.... 2 ½ years ago. I want to be perfectly clear in that regard. Chuck liked, respected and trusted Stephen Harper. I like, respect and trust Stephen Harper. If I didn't believe in my heart, that he was telling me the truth.... I wouldn't be running as the Conservative Candidate for Surrey North.

Dona Cadman

http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/308898

[Wally_Sconce]

DerbyX, read Dona's statement, then practise what you preach!!!

[ryan29]

Benoit Benoit:

ryan29 ryan29:

yeah the same people who don't have a single piece of solid evidence to back up this rediclous claim . sure that will be interesting to se what they pull out of there ass as evidence .

some possiblities

- a visit to a physic

- dreams and visions she has had

- random charatcher witnesses who know her in high school


- the cashier at the local tim hortons who serves he coffer and thinks she is friendly

Bottom line: Proposing to help a terminally-ill man to wage an electoral campaign is not credible at all.

well an intersting point but was he that ill at the time , mean he did walk himself into the house of commons and stand up . don't think he had said if he planned to run or not run at that point yet. so he might have still decided to run if his health had improved .

[Benoit]

ryan29 ryan29:

well an intersting point but was he that ill at the time , mean he did walk himself into the house of commons and stand up . don't think he had said if he planned to run or not run at that point yet. so he might have still decided to run if his health had improved .

From what we know, Mr. Flanagan and Finley went to see Mr. Cadman because Cadman was upset about losing a benefit attached to his actual position.