[andyt]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

andyt andyt:

bullshit

So let me get this straight: People who don't have the first fucking clue about National Socialism are 'Nazis' just because they wave a flag with a swastika on it...but people who literally spend their entire lives studying the Koran, praying five times a day to Allah, and then blowing themselves up with a suicide vest are NOT Muslims?

And you want to call bullshit?

Well yes, since you just spewed some more. What's the matter with your brain?

[andyt]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

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So unless all footballs players join the military they are to be despised? And they can't express an opinion on anything because they are not heros?

[llama66]

andyt andyt:

llama66 llama66:

andyt andyt:

When your buddies are carrying swastikas, then yes, they are nazis. No card involved.

not all who carry Swastikas are Nazis. Remember the Swastika is also a symbol to the Buddhists and the Hindus. Lets put that broad brush away.

Oh, fuck off and look at the picture in question, then tell me they are Buddhists.

The photo, yes, those are White Supremacists. However I was replying to YOUR statement.(hence why I quoted it, and not the photo)

[andyt]

Well MY statement was based on that photo. So your reply just makes no sense. All you did was state the obvious.

[llama66]

its what i do!

[Freakinoldguy]

andyt andyt:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

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So unless all footballs players join the military they are to be despised? And they can't express an opinion on anything because they are not heros?

Of course the entitled whiner who lived a makes a 11 million dollars year for playing a "game" is the real hero here because compared to his teammate he gave up so much for his beliefs.

He can express himself anyway he wants but that doesn't mean he's got any moral high ground to stand on especially given his background, contract and quite possible ulterior motive for deciding to politicise what is essentially the most racially diverse area of american society.

If he'd come out against delinquent black fathers like his before choosing to jump on the bandwagon, become a crusader and crap all over "whitey" for all the real and perceived sins while, ignoring the myriad of issues within a black community that he never lived in I'd have had alot more respect for his decision.

How much money has Mr. Kapernick given to organisations like the NCAAP or to the University of Nevada to fund more inner city kids scholarships and if the answer is none or very little then, you have your answer about who's the real hero between him and Glen Coffee.

And for the record this is the only charitable thing I could find that Kapernick was a associated with.

$1:

Sure, Colin Kaepernick appears on magazine covers and in TV commercials.

But there's more to Kap.

The 49ers quarterback has continued to focus his off-the-field efforts on Camp Taylor, a Salida, Calif.-based community for children suffering from heart disease. In addition to explaining his motivations in the organization's clip (above), Kaepernick related his "against all odds" motto to the plight of the kids.

Kaepernick and the charity are hosting their second annual golf tournament on June 16 in Modesto.

Another fund-raising effort: With a $30 donation, Camp Taylor is offering Kap-inspired No. 7 T-shirts.

http://www.49ers.com/news/article-2/Col ... ad127ae53f

A very worthy cause but it certainly doesn't reflect what a true community activist like Kapernick should be doing to give back to his "people".

[rickc]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Today in right wing political correctness.....

Really? Right wing political correctness? I call bullshit. San Fran is the most left wing city in America by far. Yet when the camera scans the crowd during the National Anthem at the game, all those left wingers are standing. The only dipshit at the arena remaining seated is Kaepernick. You know why? Because those left wing yahoos have something that Kaepernick does not. Its called respect!!! Respect for ones country. Respect for your own National Anthem as well as others. No country is perfect. It there are things wrong with your country, than you get off your ass and you work to change them. There all all sorts of organizations dedicated to ending police brutality. I have been active in several of them for years now. Wheres Kaepernick been? I do not recall seeing him on any forums or hearing him speak out against police brutality before now. Youtube is full of video of people who spend their free time trying to prevent police brutality. Have you ever seen Kaepernick out there on the front lines? I haven't When did Mr. Kaepernick become this champion of African American causes? . In fact I seem to recall Kaepernick being fined $11,000 by the NFL last year for using the racial slur of fuc.... nig... during a game.
http://dailysnark.com/throwback-colin-k ... k-players/
So lets not make him out to be this champion of black causes. You have never been fined for using such language have you? Mr. Kaepernick is free to act like an idiot and disrespect his country and all the people who have died to give him the right to act like an idiot. He has that right. That right was paid for in blood, the blood of American service members who served their country. I have my problems with Mr. Kaepernick.

I also have my problems with you for insinuating that this a left /right sort of thing. Bullshit!!! Left wingers have died fighting for America. Left wingers are buried in Arlington National Cemetery. Left wingers come home in body bags, paralyzed, and blind as well as right wingers. The enemy does not differentiate. There is no patch on American service members to designate their political leanings. Left wingers know this, and that is why they stand for their National Anthem at every arena and ball park in the country. They love their country too. Don't come on here and act like American lefties are ok with what Kaepernick did, because they are not. They (as in San Fran fans) are the ones burning his jerseys. They will be the ones to run him out of the city. Plenty of right wingers care about police brutality. Bart started the police misconduct thread. Do you personally know any one more to the right than Bart? I don't. If Bart was running for President, he would be the most conservative candidate in this race, by far. He cares. I care. Plenty of right wingers are concerned about the government abusing their power. Thats why we vote to limit the government. Bottom line: if you don't like something than work to change it. If your National Anthem is being played, don't be a dick. Get off of your fat ass and show some fucking respect for the people who gave their lives so you can make 12 million dollars a year playing a fucking game a few months a year. Plenty of African American soldiers making $20,000 a year have came home in body bags. They would have loved to have had a chance to play professional sports at one tenth the money Kapernick makes. Many of them were better athletes. as well. They did not have the benefit of white parents raising them in a nice safe suburban neighborhood, making sure that they did their homework and kept up on their grades. Many of those soldiors had no time for sports as they had to help raise their siblings as their single parent mom was at work at night. They joined the military hoping to get a college education, and bettor themselves. Many of them died overseas as a result. These are the people Kaepernick is disrespecting by refusing to stand for the National Anthem. Many, many more blacks have died fighting for their country than have been killed by police brutality. Those service members are the people Kaepernick is disrespecting when he refuses to stand for the National Anthem. Fuck Kaepernick!!!

[BRAH]

SJW's Triggered.
https://twitter.com/jerryrice/status/770451825921105920

[andyt]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Of course the entitled whiner who lived a makes a 11 million dollars year for playing a "game" is the real hero here because compared to his teammate he gave up so much for his beliefs.

He can express himself anyway he wants but that doesn't mean he's got any moral high ground to stand on especially given his background, contract and quite possible ulterior motive for deciding to politicise what is essentially the most racially diverse area of american society.

If he'd come out against delinquent black fathers like his before choosing to jump on the bandwagon, become a crusader and crap all over "whitey" for all the real and perceived sins while, ignoring the myriad of issues within a black community that he never lived in I'd have had alot more respect for his decision.

How much money has Mr. Kapernick given to organisations like the NCAAP or to the University of Nevada to fund more inner city kids scholarships and if the answer is none or very little then, you have your answer about who's the real hero between him and Glen Coffee.

And for the record this is the only charitable thing I could find that Kapernick was a associated with.

$1:

Sure, Colin Kaepernick appears on magazine covers and in TV commercials.

But there's more to Kap.

The 49ers quarterback has continued to focus his off-the-field efforts on Camp Taylor, a Salida, Calif.-based community for children suffering from heart disease. In addition to explaining his motivations in the organization's clip (above), Kaepernick related his "against all odds" motto to the plight of the kids.

Kaepernick and the charity are hosting their second annual golf tournament on June 16 in Modesto.

Another fund-raising effort: With a $30 donation, Camp Taylor is offering Kap-inspired No. 7 T-shirts.

http://www.49ers.com/news/article-2/Col ... ad127ae53f

A very worthy cause but it certainly doesn't reflect what a true community activist like Kapernick should be doing to give back to his "people".

Start with a strawman, then proceed to tell Kaepernik exactly how he should be living his life, according to FOG. Nice.

Why is he a whiner? Blacks in the US have no problem, everything is peachy? If not, why can't he speak out about that? What moral high ground does he need to voice his opinion on what he sees as a problem. The typical rightie response: if they are rich they can't speak about poverty because that would be hypocritical, if they are poor and they speak out, that's just jealousy. No nobody ever has the "moral high ground" to speak out at all.

Oh, and here's a quote from someone you said did have the high ground:

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Jackie Robinson: “I cannot stand and sing the anthem. I cannot salute the flag”

http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2016/08/29/jac ... -the-flag/

[stratos]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Once again you don't get it. His problem is how he perceives BLACK PEOPLE IN AMERICA are treated, not about how he's personally been treated.

Did that really need to be explained to you?

"After a 28-20 loss against the Chicago Bears on Sept. 14 of 2015, Kapernick was fined $11,00 by the NFL for using a racial slur, “f***ing n***a/er” to be specific."

http://dailysnark.com/throwback-colin-k ... k-players/


Yeah he is a real sensitive kind of guy when it comes to race. He's was demoted to 3rd string and probably feels this is the best way to bring attention to himself and try to blame race instead of performance and attitude as the cause for his demotion.

[BartSimpson]

andyt andyt:

All you did was state the obvious.

Which had managed to elude your grasp, as usual.

[Freakinoldguy]

andyt andyt:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Of course the entitled whiner who lived a makes a 11 million dollars year for playing a "game" is the real hero here because compared to his teammate he gave up so much for his beliefs.

He can express himself anyway he wants but that doesn't mean he's got any moral high ground to stand on especially given his background, contract and quite possible ulterior motive for deciding to politicise what is essentially the most racially diverse area of american society.

If he'd come out against delinquent black fathers like his before choosing to jump on the bandwagon, become a crusader and crap all over "whitey" for all the real and perceived sins while, ignoring the myriad of issues within a black community that he never lived in I'd have had alot more respect for his decision.

How much money has Mr. Kapernick given to organisations like the NCAAP or to the University of Nevada to fund more inner city kids scholarships and if the answer is none or very little then, you have your answer about who's the real hero between him and Glen Coffee.

And for the record this is the only charitable thing I could find that Kapernick was a associated with.

$1:

Sure, Colin Kaepernick appears on magazine covers and in TV commercials.

But there's more to Kap.

The 49ers quarterback has continued to focus his off-the-field efforts on Camp Taylor, a Salida, Calif.-based community for children suffering from heart disease. In addition to explaining his motivations in the organization's clip (above), Kaepernick related his "against all odds" motto to the plight of the kids.

Kaepernick and the charity are hosting their second annual golf tournament on June 16 in Modesto.

Another fund-raising effort: With a $30 donation, Camp Taylor is offering Kap-inspired No. 7 T-shirts.

http://www.49ers.com/news/article-2/Col ... ad127ae53f

A very worthy cause but it certainly doesn't reflect what a true community activist like Kapernick should be doing to give back to his "people".

Start with a strawman, then proceed to tell Kaepernik exactly how he should be living his life, according to FOG. Nice.

Why is he a whiner? Blacks in the US have no problem, everything is peachy? If not, why can't he speak out about that? What moral high ground does he need to voice his opinion on what he sees as a problem. The typical rightie response: if they are rich they can't speak about poverty because that would be hypocritical, if they are poor and they speak out, that's just jealousy. No nobody ever has the "moral high ground" to speak out at all.

Oh, and here's a quote from someone you said did have the high ground:

$1:

Jackie Robinson: “I cannot stand and sing the anthem. I cannot salute the flag”

http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2016/08/29/jac ... -the-flag/

Well at least we now know where Kapernick got his inspiration. Even in that he isn't original. BTW Robinson never did refuse to stand for the National Anthem. He spoke about not wanting to but, because it probably would have made things far worse for the player of colour who followed him he never did it at a MLB game. Kapernick of course had no such qualms about the fallout his action would cause for others.

And why is pointing out the position of privilege a person lives in while trying to make himself look like one of the downtrodden a strawman? Also, Where did I say blacks had no problem?

What I said was Colin Kapernick had no problem. Remember it was him who had decided to use his position as a pro football player to make it look like he was speaking for the black community which, is a self centred thing to do because there are a myriad of blacks who don't feel the same way this newly minted SJW does.

$1:

Cruz weighed in on the actions of his fellow NFL league athlete, having this to say in regards to Kaepernick’s choice.
“I think, personally, the flag is the flag. Regardless of how you feel about the things that are going on in America today and the things that are going on across the world with gun violence and things like that. You’ve got to respect the flag and stand up with your teammates.”

$1:

“It’s bigger than just you, in my opinion. I think you go up there. You’re with your team, and you pledge your allegiance to the flag and the national anthem as a team, and then you go about your business, whatever your beliefs are. Colin is his own man. He decided to sit down and sit out and that’s his prerogative. But from a personal standpoint, I think you have to stand out there with your team and understand that this is a game and understand that what’s going on in the country.”

http://www.inquisitr.com/3461708/new-yo ... -the-flag/

$1:

Mr. Kaepernick, a biracial young man adopted and raised by white parents, claims America is oppressing blacks at a time when we have a black, biracial president who was twice elected. We’ve had two black attorneys general and currently have a black secretary of homeland security, along with a black national security advisor. Here in Dallas our police chief, whom I know, is an outstanding black leader. The officer in Milwaukee who shot the armed assailant after issuing an order to drop his weapon was black. Is Mr. Kaepernick following suit and cherry-picking what he terms “oppression?”
First of all, let me clarify to you sir, you are a multi-millionaire “one-percenter” just because you can throw a ball and kiss your biceps. Men like Jesse Owens, Jackie Robinson, Hank Aaron, Oscar Robertson, Ernie Davis, and Bernard King and Condredge Halloway of my alma mater were athletes who knew of oppression. You sir may certainly have the right to sit upon your “fourth point of contact” when the National Anthem is played but never forget, you live in a nation that has provided you the privilege to have that right.

http://www.allenbwest.com/allen/message ... kaepernick

Sorry but Kapernick overstepped his boundaries by trying to take on the mantle of spokesman for the oppressed blacks of America and now that it's coming back to bite him in the ass the excuses are flying full force.

[llama66]

If Kaepernick feels this strongly about the plight of the downtrodden blacks that are being "oppressed", he should be putting his money where his mouth is. He should donate all of the 'White Man's" Oppressive money to either a charity that helps the Poor or Starting a Scholarship for blacks to help escape the inner city. But he won't, this is all lip service and empty gestures, like all modern social activism.

[Delwin]

And you should put all your money against it since you too have an opinion.

[andyt]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Well at least we now know where Kapernick got his inspiration. Even in that he isn't original. BTW Robinson never did refuse to stand for the National Anthem. He spoke about not wanting to but, because it probably would have made things far worse for the player of colour who followed him he never did it at a MLB game. Kapernick of course had no such qualms about the fallout his action would cause for others.

Maybe Robinson just didn't have the balls and didn't want to put his career in jeopardy.

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

And why is pointing out the position of privilege a person lives in while trying to make himself look like one of the downtrodden a strawman? Also, Where did I say blacks had no problem?

Did he say he was one of the downtrodden? I thought he just said blacks were. And certainly even high status blacks have complained about being singled out by police, so maybe he has been too, who knows.

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

What I said was Colin Kapernick had no problem. Remember it was him who had decided to use his position as a pro football player to make it look like he was speaking for the black community which, is a self centred thing to do because there are a myriad of blacks who don't feel the same way this newly minted SJW does.

For fuck's sake, more of this bullshit. Any community but the white one must all be on one mind and be responsible for the entire community. Even MLK wasn't speaking for the entire black community - I'm sure you could have found plenty that just wanted him to keep quiet. There seems pretty broad agreement within the black community they are still getting a raw deal, and he was expressing that.

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

$1:

Cruz weighed in on the actions of his fellow NFL league athlete, having this to say in regards to Kaepernick’s choice.
“I think, personally, the flag is the flag. Regardless of how you feel about the things that are going on in America today and the things that are going on across the world with gun violence and things like that. You’ve got to respect the flag and stand up with your teammates.”

And? Cruz is the authority on this, Kaepernick can't see it differntly? Oh, right, all blacks have to agree with him before he's allowed to act.

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

$1:

Mr. Kaepernick, a biracial young man adopted and raised by white parents, claims America is oppressing blacks at a time when we have a black, biracial president who was twice elected. We’ve had two black attorneys general and currently have a black secretary of homeland security, along with a black national security advisor. Here in Dallas our police chief, whom I know, is an outstanding black leader. The officer in Milwaukee who shot the armed assailant after issuing an order to drop his weapon was black. Is Mr. Kaepernick following suit and cherry-picking what he terms “oppression?”
First of all, let me clarify to you sir, you are a multi-millionaire “one-percenter” just because you can throw a ball and kiss your biceps. Men like Jesse Owens, Jackie Robinson, Hank Aaron, Oscar Robertson, Ernie Davis, and Bernard King and Condredge Halloway of my alma mater were athletes who knew of oppression. You sir may certainly have the right to sit upon your “fourth point of contact” when the National Anthem is played but never forget, you live in a nation that has provided you the privilege to have that right.

http://www.allenbwest.com/allen/message ... kaepernick

Sorry but Kapernick overstepped his boundaries by trying to take on the mantle of spokesman for the oppressed blacks of America and now that it's coming back to bite him in the ass the excuses are flying full force.

this is what its really about for you guys, a black man daring to say that there are still problems for blacks in the US. How dare he.