[andyt]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

The "mandatory lite" proposed by Andy seems a better use of resources to me--that is education, and restricting access to unvaccinated kids at schools or unvaccinated employees from work, etc.

I don't think anybody has proposed forced vaccinations or jail. so the proposal is about as heavy as it's ever going to get. Just have to remove the religious or other exemptions that aren't based on risk to the person to be vaccinated. Ie there will always be some people who can't be vaccinated for very legitimate reasons - a very small percentage.

[ShepherdsDog]

Regina Regina:

Public_Domain Public_Domain:

On NationStates I just got this issue for my nation. Decided to let people refuse vaccination, but their choice means they are barred from free healthcare.

Our healthcare isn't free.

I have to laugh every time I hear people going on about our 'free' healthcare.

[Tricks]

Delwin Delwin:

Tricks Tricks:

Delwin Delwin:

If I am walking around with meningitis and you get it, then your vaccine failed.

Also. It's not only those who get the vaccine, but those that are incapable of getting it, or those with severely diminished immune systems.

I see your point and it is entirely valid, but the onus is on the daycare to provide an infection free environment for immunodeficient children. You cannot expect the environment itself to be immunodeficient.

And what about out in public? If enough people have the mentality that you do, then we run into issues.

[ShepherdsDog]

think about it

[Jabberwalker]

By the way, the same applies to pasteurizing our milk. Diseases like Bovine Tuberculosis have been gone from our lives for so long, legions of idiots have returned to drinking raw milk. All the bullshit about pasteurization being some sort of a food industry plot to adulterate our food supply ... our ancestors started doing it because they got tired of burying their children.

[Thanos]

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

... our ancestors started doing it because they got tired of burying their children....

That's why I've previously said that the only thing that'll stop the stupidity will be when one of the old diseases returns full force and kills a few million people. And even then the idiocy and tinhattery is so deeply entrenched now that most of the ignorant motherfuckers will start screaming about a Big Gov/Big Pharma co-conspiracy that did it on purpose. False flag! Fake moon landings! Tri-Lateral Commission! 9/11! JFK! Chemtrails! Benghazi! Obamacare!

The greatest problem with this current age that we're stuck in is that the stupidity now runs so deep that nothing will be able to completely root it out. The bad ones that deliberately commit evil acts are in reality few and far between. The stupid ones though? Their numbers are beyond legion and when they act the result turns out to be pretty much the same as if it were done by the actively malicious tiny minority. Personally I believe that it has the potential to bring down our civilization altogether but that in and of itself might not be such a bad thing to have happen. The morons and idiots will be the first to die off in such massive numbers that their departure will by default cause a massive upswing to a much higher collective IQ that a golden age might naturally and spontaneously occur.

[Unsound]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

NS sucks out loud. Go over to Cyber Nations (where CKA used to have an alliance) and start a country.

You can actually run a country on CN - run the economy, build things, choose a government, make war - or stay in peace mode.

It beats the hell out of just voting on stupid sh*t all the time.

Done!

Soundmark is now a member of the family of nations

[Tricks]

Unsound Unsound:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

NS sucks out loud. Go over to Cyber Nations (where CKA used to have an alliance) and start a country.

You can actually run a country on CN - run the economy, build things, choose a government, make war - or stay in peace mode.

It beats the hell out of just voting on stupid sh*t all the time.

Done!

Soundmark is now a member of the family of nations

I always make a new nations, play for a couple weeks, get in a alliance, do some shit, get bored, stop. Might do it again.

[Tricks]

Ah fuck it. Apatros too.

[ShepherdsDog]

Celephais

[Thanos]

Angband and Utumno both offer a comprehensive tourist experience. The hostel service in Carn Dum is the shits though.

[Tricks]

IS FARK STILL AROUND!? Where is SPR!?

[andyt]

What about HPV virus. Those of you with pre-teen children, will you get that vaccine?

[bootlegga]

I don't know if his research is totally accurate, but if it is, this chart pretty much proves anyone arguing against vaccinations is totally and absolutely wrong;

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https://twitter.com/Neal_Dewing/media

[bootlegga]

Thanos Thanos:

That's why I've previously said that the only thing that'll stop the stupidity will be when one of the old diseases returns full force and kills a few million people. And even then the idiocy and tinhattery is so deeply entrenched now that most of the ignorant motherfuckers will start screaming about a Big Gov/Big Pharma co-conspiracy that did it on purpose. False flag! Fake moon landings! Tri-Lateral Commission! 9/11! JFK! Chemtrails! Benghazi! Obamacare!

The greatest problem with this current age that we're stuck in is that the stupidity now runs so deep that nothing will be able to completely root it out. The bad ones that deliberately commit evil acts are in reality few and far between. The stupid ones though? Their numbers are beyond legion and when they act the result turns out to be pretty much the same as if it were done by the actively malicious tiny minority. Personally I believe that it has the potential to bring down our civilization altogether but that in and of itself might not be such a bad thing to have happen. The morons and idiots will be the first to die off in such massive numbers that their departure will by default cause a massive upswing to a much higher collective IQ that a golden age might naturally and spontaneously occur.

It may seem like a solution, but in reality, a massive die-off will kill both the smart and the stupid alike, as the smart will die from food shortages, energy shortages, disease (cholera, dysentery) and a host of other factors brought by the deaths of so many people.

What will happen however, is that the survivors will be far more pragmatic and embrace vaccinations, at least for a couple generations, until their children get as lazy/stupid as many are nowadays.