[Exocet82]

Tricks Tricks:

Exocet82 Exocet82:

I don't see why anyone should critisize Argentina for building a nuclear sub.

Probably because it seen as unnecessary and with an ulterior motive behind it.

What "ulterior" motive? Please see my introduction on the previous pages. Argentina is a sovereign state. If it has the means it has the right to use these means in its' defense. South American nations have a need to modernize their defense to the highest available standards and capability without having to rely on foreign sources of supply. This is a disadvantage when your sources of supply can be cut off. Argentina is a member of UNASUR and the only member with the dapbility to provide a Niclear Submarine deterrent until rasil comes online in 2020. As a citizen of any country, I would want my government to be able to provide the best defense possible. Nuclear propulsion does just that, as well as creating the need for a higly developed work force. .

[stratos]

Tricks Tricks:

stratos stratos:

Tricks great to see you again. Hope all is going well for you and yours.

You too buddy. Finally done school and living the dream of scraping by

Welcome to my world. Actually doing ok at the moment, a few things to still fix, but I can see the light at the end of the tunnel or that might be a train heading my way.

[martin14]

stratos stratos:

Tricks Tricks:

stratos stratos:

Tricks great to see you again. Hope all is going well for you and yours.

You too buddy. Finally done school and living the dream of scraping by

Welcome to my world. Actually doing ok at the moment, a few things to still fix, but I can see the light at the end of the tunnel or that might be a train heading my way.

Your right.



It's a train.

A fucking big one, tooooooo toooooooo .....

[Exocet82]

martin14 martin14:

You are trying to use the idea that Argentina has control of the Falklands

for 15 years out of the previous 300 ?


Talk about grasping at straws.

Actually yes, and I will say more. The malvinas were uder the sovereignty of Spain and was actually under the control of the Viceroyalty of the River Plate. After independence it came under the control of the government in Buenos Aires. Adiitionally, they were included in the area of jurisdiction of Buenos Aires in the navigation treaty of 1826 that UK signed and recognized.

[stratos]

Exocet82 Exocet82:

What "ulterior" motive? Please see my introduction on the previous pages. Argentina is a sovereign state. If it has the means it has the right to use these means in its' defense. South American nations have a need to modernize their defense to the highest available standards and capability without having to rely on foreign sources of supply. This is a disadvantage when your sources of supply can be cut off. Argentina is a member of UNASUR and the only member with the dapbility to provide a Niclear Submarine deterrent until rasil comes online in 2020. As a citizen of any country, I would want my government to be able to provide the best defense possible. Nuclear propulsion does just that, as well as creating the need for a higly developed work force. .

As was pointed out a few pages back a nuke sub is needed strictly for offense not defense. Diesel subs are defensive and work amazingly well. A nuke sub's purpose is to travel far to strike at a great distance from home thus strictly offensive in nature.

[stratos]

martin14 martin14:

Your right.



It's a train.

A fucking big one, tooooooo toooooooo .....

OMG HEEELLLLLPPPPP. Thump thump.... thump thump... squish squish...squish squish. ( sound a train makes as it runs over a body.)

[martin14]

Exocet82 Exocet82:

martin14 martin14:

You are trying to use the idea that Argentina has control of the Falklands

for 15 years out of the previous 300 ?


Talk about grasping at straws.

Actually yes, and I will say more. The malvinas were uder the sovereignty of Spain and was actually under the control of the Viceroyalty of the River Plate. After independence it came under the control of the government in Buenos Aires. Adiitionally, they were included in the area of jurisdiction of Buenos Aires in the navigation treaty of 1826 that UK signed and recognized.

Spain isn't Argentina, so the rest of it is nonsense.

The argies were kicked out in 1833.

Deal with it.

You lost. Twice.

Now stop behaving like a Palestinian, get in to the 20th century at least.


Now back on topic, why does Argentina need an offensive nuclear sub ?

[stratos]

Also why announce you are going to develop one, why not wait and make it first then announce it to the world. Is this in some way an attempt at intimidating others into doing what Argentina wants? If they don't get their way will Argentina, once the nuke sub is built, use the sub against those who would not give into them?

[Exocet82]

martin14 martin14:

Exocet82 Exocet82:

martin14 martin14:

You are trying to use the idea that Argentina has control of the Falklands

for 15 years out of the previous 300 ?


Talk about grasping at straws.

Actually yes, and I will say more. The malvinas were uder the sovereignty of Spain and was actually under the control of the Viceroyalty of the River Plate. After independence it came under the control of the government in Buenos Aires. Adiitionally, they were included in the area of jurisdiction of Buenos Aires in the navigation treaty of 1826 that UK signed and recognized.

Spain isn't Argentina, so the rest of it is nonsense.

The argies were kicked out in 1833.

Deal with it.

You lost. Twice.

Now stop behaving like a Palestinian, get in to the 20th century at least.


Now back on topic, why does Argentina need an offensive nuclear sub ?

Of course Spain is not Argentina IGNORAMUS, and that's because Argentina and the rest of the colonies fought a war of independence to be free of Europen Colonial rule. All lands under Spanish rule came under teh patriots government after independence, the Malvinas included. The act of 1833 was never accepted nor recognized by Argenina. Argentina has been claiming its islands and to et them back ever since. Continuous written claims with historical backing does have merit under international law. The nuclear sub is not an offensive weapon.
Why doe the US, UK, Russia, or Israel need an "offensive sub". It will carry a land attack capability in case that Agentina or UNASUR needs to respond to a threat or to a land attack on it as self defense.

[Exocet82]

martin14 martin14:

Exocet82 Exocet82:

martin14 martin14:

You are trying to use the idea that Argentina has control of the Falklands

for 15 years out of the previous 300 ?


Talk about grasping at straws.

Actually yes, and I will say more. The malvinas were uder the sovereignty of Spain and was actually under the control of the Viceroyalty of the River Plate. After independence it came under the control of the government in Buenos Aires. Adiitionally, they were included in the area of jurisdiction of Buenos Aires in the navigation treaty of 1826 that UK signed and recognized.

Spain isn't Argentina, so the rest of it is nonsense.

The argies were kicked out in 1833.

Deal with it.

You lost. Twice.

Now stop behaving like a Palestinian, get in to the 20th century at least.


Now back on topic, why does Argentina need an offensive nuclear sub ?

[DanSC]

How about a trade. If the UK recognizes that Argentina has sovereignty over the Falklands, Argentina exports Messi to become a British citizen and a member of the England, Scotland, Wales, or N. Ireland football team.

[Exocet82]

DanSC DanSC:

How about a trade. If the UK recognizes that Argentina has sovereignty over the Falklands, Argentina exports Messi to become a British citizen and a member of the England, Scotland, Wales, or N. Ireland football team.

Ho, I didn't know that the Barcelona team was part of England ow. Are they not happy with Gibralyar and did they steal that too from Spain.
(YOU IGNORANT BRUT!)

[Exocet82]

Enjot this lovely UNASUR Armed Forces Video. The shape of things to come.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EFaNqtfJjw&feature=fvsr

[DanSC]

Exocet82 Exocet82:

Ho, I didn't know that the Barcelona team was part of England ow.

You do realize that the top footballers somehow manage to play for their club team AND national team? It happens from time to time.

[Exocet82]

DanSC DanSC:

How about a trade. If the UK recognizes that Argentina has sovereignty over the Falklands, Argentina exports Messi to become a British citizen and a member of the England, Scotland, Wales, or N. Ireland football team.

Messi can go anywhere he wants. Argentina is a free and democratic country.