[raydan]

I'm sure that if we looked at all the old plays and operas, we'd have to at least put warnings on half of them.

[Bodah]

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You guys are all acting like the song's being banned.

Why aren't any of you complaining about all the other non-explicit versions they play on daytime radio? David Guetta's song Sexy Bitch was changed to Sexy Chick. Gwen Stefani's song Whatcha Waiting For had "ho" edited out. Eminem and other rap music is always being censored. I just downloaded a bunch of music for a friend's kid's MP3 player and had to ensure I got the non-explicit versions.

"Nigger" is considered explicit, no problem. "Chink" is explicit, no problem. "Ho" and "bitch" explicit, no problem. Most other swear or hate words are explicit, no problem. The word "faggot" become's explicit, and you all freak out.

Why don't you guys continue listening to the song on CD or your MP3 player, or on late night or satellite radio, and not wait on pins and needles to be able to hear "faggot" on daytime radio when kids are listening, like it enriches your lives somehow?

Did you pay for those downloads ? If not, don't be offended if I ignore your thoughts on what's right or wrong .

[Canadian_Mind]

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SprCForr SprCForr:

Sounds like you haven't any issue with a bureaucrat making a decision on what words you're allowed to hear. You're comfortable with that, fine, I'm not.

This isn't a case of a bureaucrat deciding what words I'm allowed to hear.

I know, it feels so good to blame the gooberment, you do it anyway.

What we have here is a private panel established by the Canadian broadcasting industry. It's voluntary. Stations don't even have to be members.

Nobody in government, bureaucrat or politician, is ultimately deciding what words I can hear. I have an Eminem CD here with the word "faggot" in it at least twice, and nobodies knocked on my door about it. I can still listen to it but I wouldn't blast it driving down the street with my windows open nor would I let my nephew listen to it. Are you seeing the difference here?

And I call BS to the straw that broke the camels back. I find it hard to believe people would keep quiet until all of a sudden now. I think deep down, whether people want to admit it or not, or even realize it, some people here don't feel gays deserve the same dignity and respect other demographics do.

I think you are so deeply entrenched in your own homophobia, whether you know it or not, that you fail to grasp the concept of "context." You fear the word and it's one meaning regardless of whether it is used to praise or put down the people who fall under it's definition. You fear it enough you support it to be censored in public, instead of letting people choose whether they wish to hear it or not.

Anyone can change the radio station if a song comes on they don't like. It's not like the song starts off with the word "faggot." It starts off with an awesome and easily one of the most recognizable guitar riffs in music history. Gives the average joe about a minute and 15 seconds to change the station before the word "faggot" comes on air.

I think it would be neat if the full song is played before and after every hockey game in a Canadian arena in protest of this ludicrous decision. One thing my parents taught me a long time ago is you don't mess with art.



I remember, after being taught as a very young boy not to swear, asking my mother why there were swear words, and the use of Jesus and God in songs. She told me it was acceptable because it was music, but isn't acceptable for day to day use. Simple solution to a simple problem, something called proper parenting. If we had more of it we wouldn't need the nanny state to save us from ourselves after 25 years of exposure to this vile piece of literary art.

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Bodah Bodah:

Did you pay for those downloads ? If not, don't be offended if I ignore your thoughts on what's right or wrong .

Good one.

I have an iTunes account along with an extensive CD collection, but it seems you've already made up your mind.

EDIT: Oh OK, I did illegally download Highway to Hell by AC/DC because I couldn't find it on iTunes. It went to my sister's Halloween CD and was only listened to once. Also on her Halloween CD I downloaded Cry Little Sister because iTunes wanted me to buy the whole soundtrack, which is a rip-off. I've spent over $8,000 in music over my life, and I tried to buy these songs individually, so sue me.

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Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

I think you are so deeply entrenched in your own homophobia, whether you know it or not, that you fail to grasp the concept of "context."

Don't be stupid.

The part about me being entrenched in my own homophobia is ridiculous.

The part of me not grasping the concept of "context" indicates to me that you don't bother to read someone's previous posts in a thread before engaging them. Read my previous posts and then come back and tell me I don't understand "context."

The rest of your post indicates to me you feel this song is being banned. If that was truly the case I'd support you 100%.

[ShepherdsDog]

I'm trying to remember the last time I listened to the radio to hear music. Usually it's only for the news/interviews, so in the end their PC stupidity has no impact on my life and musical preferences.

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ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

I'm trying to remember the last time I listened to the radio to hear music. Usually it's only for the news/interviews, so in the end their PC stupidity has no impact on my life and musical preferences.

That's because radio is an awful way to enjoy music. You're right it's usually only good for news and interviews, and the traffic report. Maybe if people don't have any music, just a radio, it makes sense to put it on as background music.

[raydan]

I just listen to the morning radio show at home and have the radio on when I'm in the car. So I do get to hear some music... it does introduce me to bands that I wouldn't hear elsewhere, especially local music.

[Lemmy]

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That's because radio is an awful way to enjoy music.

That's a complete contradiction. There's no such thing as an awful way to enjoy music. Let's replace "enjoy" with "listen to". I don't much like rock radio, both for the inane chatter and the choice of tunes. But I wouldn't say it's an awful way to listen to music. Using an IPOD is awful way to listen to music.

[ShepherdsDog]

Listening to the radio here is futile anyways. Except for one crappy English station ICRT(formerly a propaganda station for the CIA), it's all in Mandarin and they play crappy Mandarin bubble gum shit.

[Refreshed]

How is an iPod an awful way to listen to music? Does that opinion extend to all digital music players?

[raydan]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Listening to the radio here is futile anyways. Except for one crappy English station ICRT(formerly a propaganda station for the CIA), it's all in Mandarin and they play crappy Mandarin bubble gum shit.

Reminds me when I went camping in Tennessee... all country, all the time.

[ShepherdsDog]

I'm wondering that too. So listening to music you like is bad??

[SprCForr]

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This isn't a case of a bureaucrat deciding what words I'm allowed to hear.

Yes it is otherwise you could hear that particular song on the radio as the artist wrote it.

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I know, it feels so good to blame the gooberment, you do it anyway.

Not me, that's you ascribing words to me that I didn't write.

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What we have here is a private panel established by the Canadian broadcasting industry. It's voluntary. Stations don't even have to be members.

That's right, and if it's powerless whats the point? As matter of fact, I think I'm of the position that the CBSC doesn't need to exist all..

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Nobody in government, bureaucrat or politician, is ultimately deciding what words I can hear. I have an Eminem CD here with the word "faggot" in it at least twice, and nobodies knocked on my door about it. I can still listen to it but I wouldn't blast it driving down the street with my windows open nor would I let my nephew listen to it. Are you seeing the difference here?

I'm afraid it's you who has missed the point. Someone has decided what words you'll hear over a radio. I'll leave the rest of the strawman alone.

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And I call BS to the straw that broke the camels back. I find it hard to believe people would keep quiet until all of a sudden now. I think deep down, whether people want to admit it or not, or even realize it, some people here don't feel gays deserve the same dignity and respect other demographics do.

Yes, songs have been altered in the past. Yes, I found it be be foolish then too. So call BS all you like, the fact is, this particular ban has motivated people who have never written to protest before, to write in. Trying to stick a charge of homophobia to all this is astonishing. Do you not know the context of the song? If you truly believed disrespectful then you'd be ditching those Eminem CD's out of support, but you don't and that's hypocritical.

If I'm reading you right, you're comfortable with the idea of some panel censoring what you and I get to hear. I'm not and you won't be until it's something important to you. What a shame.

[SprCForr]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

I'm trying to remember the last time I listened to the radio to hear music. Usually it's only for the news/interviews, so in the end their PC stupidity has no impact on my life and musical preferences.

I listen to the radio daily and their PC stupidity has an impact on me.

I do take some comfort that if Oz FM has cojones to play the song again the CBSC is pretty much limited to doing the typical PC Canadian thing and saying "Stop Again"...

Gotta shoot another email into the local station requesting it again...Gordo'll play i,t CBSC membership be damned.