[Gunnair]

DerbyX DerbyX:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

DerbyX DerbyX:

Oh goody. Muslims will continue to force their views on your country as long as your military is being used to force it on others.

No, they won't. You forgot that we're armed and don't have to put up with that sh*t.

So are they and they are just as committed. Besides, its not the armed ones you give your warnings about. Its the unarmed ones immigrating to your country.

Under your laws they are freely allowed to buy as many guns as they want.

Hmmm, a Muslim population arming itself to prevent their rights and religious practices being interfered with by the government. Sounds just like the kind of Americans you support.

I wish you had you rep points on...

[EyeBrock]

Interesting fact:

"14 of the last 16 police officers in Canada killed by firearms were killed by someone using a long gun."

Source; the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police.

[Gunnair]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Interesting fact:

"14 of the last 16 police officers in Canada killed by firearms were killed by someone using a long gun."

Source; the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police.

Don't confuse the highly emotional argument with real life pertinent facts, eh?

Someone might make an educated decision...

[EyeBrock]

The Tories are wrong on this one.

[Gunnair]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

The Tories are wrong on this one.

Agreed. Very wrong. They had their opportunity to attack the costly implementation. They are simply shitting the bed on trying to shut it down.

[andyt]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Interesting fact:

"14 of the last 16 police officers in Canada killed by firearms were killed by someone using a long gun."

Source; the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police.

You know that I'm in total agreement with you about keeping the gun registry, since we've already paid for it.

But how many of those cops' lives would have been saved by the registry? How many of those were a complete surprise to the cop and if the cop had only known there were guns on the premises he would have been more cautious. Certainly in any rural setting, you would think the cop would expect a gun in any household.

[EyeBrock]

I'll not argue with any of that andy, but it is nice to know how many guns are in the rural beat, especially when a rural cops back-up could be 12 hours away.

Mayerthorpe changed a lot of attitudes in policing.

[redhatmamma]

The registry couldn't have saved anyone in Mayerthorpe

[andyt]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

I'll not argue with any of that andy, but it is nice to know how many guns are in the rural beat, especially when a rural cops back-up could be 12 hours away.

Mayerthorpe changed a lot of attitudes in policing.

I think the attitude should be to go in expecting guns and be pleasantly surprised if that's not the case.

The cops at Mayerthorpe seemed a bit clueless. The rest of the population knew this guy was trouble, why didn't they? Don't they have their ear to the ground?

[EyeBrock]

redhatmamma redhatmamma:

The registry couldn't have saved anyone in Mayerthorpe

No, but it does highlight the issue. The last 14 cops killed in Canada were killed with long guns.

[EyeBrock]

andyt andyt:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

I'll not argue with any of that andy, but it is nice to know how many guns are in the rural beat, especially when a rural cops back-up could be 12 hours away.

Mayerthorpe changed a lot of attitudes in policing.

I think the attitude should be to go in expecting guns and be pleasantly surprised if that's not the case.

The cops at Mayerthorpe seemed a bit clueless. The rest of the population knew this guy was trouble, why didn't they? Don't they have their ear to the ground?

Don't armchair this one andy. The RCMP paid a big price for their actions that day.

[Gunnair]

andyt andyt:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

I'll not argue with any of that andy, but it is nice to know how many guns are in the rural beat, especially when a rural cops back-up could be 12 hours away.

Mayerthorpe changed a lot of attitudes in policing.

I think the attitude should be to go in expecting guns and be pleasantly surprised if that's not the case.

The cops at Mayerthorpe seemed a bit clueless. The rest of the population knew this guy was trouble, why didn't they? Don't they have their ear to the ground?

I think the last thing you want is a police force walking into any given situation hopped up on adrenaline because they expect joe lunchbucket to come out with an AK 47.

[EyeBrock]

Exactly Gunnair.

[Gunnair]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Exactly Gunnair.

Next, the Navy would be packing weapons everytime we do a SAR...

[andyt]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

andyt andyt:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

I'll not argue with any of that andy, but it is nice to know how many guns are in the rural beat, especially when a rural cops back-up could be 12 hours away.

Mayerthorpe changed a lot of attitudes in policing.

I think the attitude should be to go in expecting guns and be pleasantly surprised if that's not the case.

The cops at Mayerthorpe seemed a bit clueless. The rest of the population knew this guy was trouble, why didn't they? Don't they have their ear to the ground?

Don't armchair this one andy. The RCMP paid a big price for their actions that day.

I know they did. And as you say yourself, it changed a lot of attitudes. I doubt if the registry one way or another plays a big role in here. The best way, IMO, we can honor somebody who gave their life is to learn from it to save somebody's else's. That may involve critiquing their actions. That's different than speaking ill of the dead.

As for Gunnair - again, I wouldn't put all my faith in the registry. As we know, lots of illegal guns out there too. Some poor sucker with a registered gun minding his own business but with the cops coming to the wrong house or what have you also doesn't want them bursting in all hopped up either. There was no registry when the West Van cops killed that kid that was sitting in his house with a remote in his hand, so it already happens for no good reason. Or those Quebec cops that got the wrong motel room and machine gunned an innocent, unarmed guy. But if I was a cop called to any domestic, I would worry about a gun, even if the registry says there is none. I'm not sure bursting in is always the best strategy anyway.