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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:14 pm
 


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This thing will not pass judicial muster.


I hope the supreme court knocks it out! The federal goverment has waaaay over stepped its authority!


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:16 pm
 


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First off, who said I was a Christian?


Far be it from me to accuse you of such a thing. :wink:


Well, aren't all of awful us liberals supposedly just a bunch of godless Commies? :lol: :wink:

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Second off, you can cherry pick stats all you want, but that doesn't mean that you are right. For example, most of my donations are done because I care about the charity in question, not because I want a tax break. I didn't get a single penny for the several hundred hours I spent last year writing a marketing plan for a seniors organization here in Edmonton. Same goes for all their special events and board meetings I participate in. I also don't get a tax break because I bought some extra KD for the Food Bank bin at the entrance of Costco.


Last I checked, you can deduct your expenses as a volunteer and if you're this busy then perhaps you should.


In Canada, you cannot deduct expenses from volunteering.

Trust me, my wife is an accountant and she knows every loophole we can use to cut our taxes. :lol:


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
bootlegga bootlegga:
However, in case you want some stats, how about these numbers;

$1:
Both the number of volunteers and the volunteer rate rose over the year ended in September 2009, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. About
63.4 million people, or 26.8 percent of the population, volunteered through
or for an organization at least once between September 2008 and September
2009. In 2008, the volunteer rate was 26.4 percent.


http://www.bls.gov/news.release/volun.nr0.htm

Meanwhile, here in Canada;

$1:
Almost 12.5 million Canadians or 46% of the population aged 15 and over, volunteered during the one-year period preceding the survey. The rate of volunteering is largely unchanged from the 45% reported in 2004. However, the number of volunteers has increased by 5.7% due, in part, to the increase in the size of the population aged 15 and older.


http://www.givingandvolunteering.ca/fil ... s_2007.pdf

So it sounds like you guys have a deeper pocketbooks, while we donate our time. I would argue that time is more valuable than money, simply because we have all have other priorities in life - be it family, work, school, whatever. After all, wasn't the US who criticized the Japanese for 'checkbook diplomacy' during the first Gulf War?

Oh yeah, here it is (still happening too);

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-Pac ... -woap.html


The disparity in volunteerism is along racial lines in the US. Whites volunteer more than any other group. The same can be said for Canada where whites are a larger part of the population. As immigration reduces the percentage of whites in Canada it'll be interesting if those Canadian values of volunteerism are imparted to the immigrants.


That's an interesting take. Given what I've seen in my volunteering days, you could be right, as the majority of the volunteers I know are white.

However, I don't necessarily think it's totally accurate, as there are several dozen minority run non-profits in Edmonton alone. The seniors organization I volunteer with just signed an MOU to help a visible minority transport its members around. I think the many minority NPOs generally tend to help out 'their own' and don't bother to associate with people from other demographics.

Still, it will be interesting to see if your statement is accurate a decade or two from now (makes mental note to check on it - but knows deep down I'll probably forget).


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Does anyone else here see the absurdity of a couple of Americans (and wannabes) are fighting so rabidly on a Canadian site about how terrible the implementation of health coverage for 40 – 50 million of their citizens is because it infringes on their liberties and yet they’re prepared to line up for hours, removing shoes, being micro-scanned and probed to get on a plane and that’s not a problem?

I’m convinced we’re seeing various on-line personas with a shtick that makes them feel better because of their inability to grow up or of course we could be seeing a real pathology..... :roll:


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Does anyone else here see the absurdity of a couple of Americans (and wannabes) are fighting so rabidly on a Canadian site about how terrible the implementation of health coverage for 40 – 50 million of their citizens is because it infringes on their liberties and yet they’re prepared to line up for hours, removing shoes, being micro-scanned and probed to get on a plane and that’s not a problem?


I like to think that they come here to get a break from the rabid insanity that's gripped right-wing US message groups since the 2008 election. Even partisans need a place to visit every once in a while just to inhale the positive vibes emanating from (mostly) sane people. 8)

Canada = like, mellow. 8) 8) 8)


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:03 pm
 


ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
This thing will not pass judicial muster.


I hope the supreme court knocks it out! The federal goverment has waaaay over stepped its authority!


I agree. How dare the government try to help its citizens.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:54 pm
 


xerxes xerxes:
ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
This thing will not pass judicial muster.


I hope the supreme court knocks it out! The federal goverment has waaaay over stepped its authority!


I agree. How dare the government try to help its citizens.


Judicial Activism to the rescue!....although probably not.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:43 pm
 


xerxes xerxes:
ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
This thing will not pass judicial muster.


I hope the supreme court knocks it out! The federal goverment has waaaay over stepped its authority!


I agree. How dare the government try to help its citizens.



Says you, what help?? control not help.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:46 pm
 


ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:
Says you, what help?? control not help.



You and Bart are expressing ever increasing signs of rampant paranoia.


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poquas poquas:
ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:
Says you, what help?? control not help.



You and Bart are expressing ever increasing signs of rampant paranoia.


Really? where should I start?

The post office can't make money, Social Security is broke, Madicare and medicade is broke, New York State took over OTB (off track betting) and they are broke! they cant make money gambling!!!!

And you call me paranoid? The goverment sucks and cant run a bridge game! now you want me to trust them with my choice of health care!!!


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:44 pm
 


Well that's the difference then. Canada's gov't is so damn good it can take a three month vacation and gain a few poll points!


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Could this be our next President?



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ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:
Could this be our next President?



George W Bush was, so Yes, he could be the next PotUS. Good luck with that.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:05 pm
 


xerxes xerxes:
ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
This thing will not pass judicial muster.


I hope the supreme court knocks it out! The federal goverment has waaaay over stepped its authority!


I agree. How dare the government try to help its citizens by relieving them of $1 trillion per year.


Exactly.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:12 pm
 


poquas poquas:
ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:
Says you, what help?? control not help.



You and Bart are expressing ever increasing signs of rampant paranoia.


And you are expressing ever increasing signs of trolling.

If you want to have a discussion like everyone else, please do so.

But if you wish to insist on trolling and provoking a fight then perhaps it is a good time for you to review the site terms of use and then resolve to impress us poor Americans with your exemplary Canadian forum behavior. :wink:


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:16 pm
 


poquas poquas:
ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:
Says you, what help?? control not help.



You and Bart are expressing ever increasing signs of rampant paranoia.



You forgot the rolly eyes thingy. Boy, thats a major fubar.


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