[kenmore]

romanP... if you think there are not people who would want to take over the world ... think again... think again.

[Canadian_Mind]

RUEZ RUEZ:

So the Conservatives haven't given the military the equipment they need to fight in Afghanistan? They haven't put tanks on the ground and helicopters in the air?

They put inferior tanks on the ground initially, which was half the reason why the gov. opted to buy Leo 2s.

While I critisize them for dragging their ass to be convinced to buy the Leo 2s, once it went through the chain it, along with the C-17 procurement, were the fastest kit procurements since WWII, which is commendable.

To bad it couldn't happen for all the kit we require overseas such as LAV III, LAV 25, T-LAV, G-Wagon, and RG-31 Replcements, new tac-vests (should just buy commercially available off the shel vests from CP Gear), ballistic goggles from ESS, etc, plus numberous other things to make the soldiers job easier and safer over there.

[ziggy]

kenmore kenmore:

romanP... if you think there are not people who would want to take over the world ... think again... think again.

Lets ged rid of the gangs first,they just pulled off Alberta's largest coke bust yesterday in Calgary,Think it was the Triads.
The names of all charged are published in the Calgary sun,looks like a Calgary/B.C. operation judging by the addresses of the accused.

The gang war is not being won in Calgary,Edmonton or Vancouver.
Maybe we should do like the libs said and get stevey to put troops in the streets....with guns.

[romanP]

kenmore kenmore:

romanP... if you think there are not people who would want to take over the world ... think again... think again.

Do you understand the difference between wanting to do something and actually doing it?

[romanP]

PENATRATOR PENATRATOR:

Disect it however you like, you are basically admitting that you would rather concede defeat than protect your own, that is fine, refer to my George Orwell quote.

No, you are admitting that you haven't understood a single thing I've said because you're not listening, and obviously more interested in talking to yourself about your own narrow, rigid, black and white point of view. I haven't said any such thing. If I had a whiteboard, I'd draw you a picture so you could maybe understand better, but I have a feeling it won't help much either.

$1:

Think what you want about the war on terror, but since the invasion of Afghanistan, (a place that sponsored and allowed terrorist to train and run wild, regardless of their nationality) has there been an attack in North America?

There have been attacks all over Europe, Asia and the Middle East. A Spanish train, the London Underground, Bali. There have been countless attacks on civilians and police in Iraq, Afghanistan, Sri Lanka and Pakistan, and they continue to this day.

[OldChum]

And they will go on after we are gone from Afghanistan too sad to say , well I support our troops I wonder what the world is getting for their lives .

[Canadian_Mind]

romanP romanP:

PENATRATOR PENATRATOR:

Disect it however you like, you are basically admitting that you would rather concede defeat than protect your own, that is fine, refer to my George Orwell quote.

No, you are admitting that you haven't understood a single thing I've said because you're not listening, and obviously more interested in talking to yourself about your own narrow, rigid, black and white point of view. I haven't said any such thing. If I had a whiteboard, I'd draw you a picture so you could maybe understand better, but I have a feeling it won't help much either.

George Orwell and his stories were actually very colourful and open ended if you looked at the from a philisophical and geo-political point of view. I like to think of 1984 as the most important piece of literature because it exemplifies what we strive to not become as a civilisation, but we edge a little closer every day.

$1:

$1:

Think what you want about the war on terror, but since the invasion of Afghanistan, (a place that sponsored and allowed terrorist to train and run wild, regardless of their nationality) has there been an attack in North America?

There have been attacks all over Europe, Asia and the Middle East. A Spanish train, the London Underground, Bali. There have been countless attacks on civilians and police in Iraq, Afghanistan, Sri Lanka and Pakistan, and they continue to this day.

All attacks since the invasion have occured in places where there is a base of extremist supporters that has the domestic resources available to pull off attacks. Since the invasion the supply lien of resources for mass, well planned attacks has been cut off, hence no attacks in NA. Other places that have larger muslim populations wont be safe until either you remove the extremists, or seal the borders and extradite everyone.

Even without those, you wont be seeing any terrorist attacks that claim lives into the thousands any time in the near future.

[PENATRATOR]

Nice call Roman, again reread my posts, I said attacks in North America, where I live, my family lives, the country I serve is located. NO ATTACKS

You've got nothing, get back to your mushrooms and peace rallies

[romanP]

PENATRATOR PENATRATOR:

Nice call Roman, again reread my posts, I said attacks in North America, where I live, my family lives, the country I serve is located. NO ATTACKS

Ah, so things that happen in the rest of the world don't hurt anyone. I guess there really is no need for young people to take up the call to fight since, as you've just said, no problem exists.

[PENATRATOR]

romanP romanP:

PENATRATOR PENATRATOR:

Nice call Roman, again reread my posts, I said attacks in North America, where I live, my family lives, the country I serve is located. NO ATTACKS

Ah, so things that happen in the rest of the world don't hurt anyone. I guess there really is no need for young people to take up the call to fight since, as you've just said, no problem exists.

They hurt plenty, but then again, France and the rest of the world have there own Armed Forces, they can worry about there home turf. If you had it your way, we'd all be speaking German no doubt.

[romanP]

Absolutely not. Hitler inarguably had to be stopped, if we were to preserve any real sense of humanity for the entire human race. There is no modern-day equivelant of Hitler, though.

The only countries building new weapons are either the same ones that fought the second world war which are now largely at peace with one another, regions where there are border clashes such as with Pakistan, Sri Lanka and India, or countries that are attempting to build nuclear weapons because they are run by a spoiled brat who can't tell the differnece between a Nintendo controller and a button that kills everyone. The rest are fighting civil wars and localised skirmishes, and the only arms they have are leftovers from the Cold War that Russia sold to them for a discount.

[Biblesmasher]

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

you wont be seeing any terrorist attacks that claim lives into the thousands any time in the near future.

And you wouldn't have seen that before, had the guys in charge been doing their jobs and paying attention in the first place. Don't kid yourself, getting 100s of thousands of people killed...accomplished...well getting 100s of thousands of people killed. And making probably an equal amount of people murderously enraged from having lost children etc. Meanwhile Osama laughs and envisions his virgins.

[kenmore]

romanP romanP:

kenmore kenmore:

romanP... if you think there are not people who would want to take over the world ... think again... think again.

Do you understand the difference between wanting to do something and actually doing it?

Sure,, and I understand the thousands killed on the attempt... the world is not a safe place and we are being infiltrated by terrorists daily..make no mistake

[PENATRATOR]

romanP romanP:

Absolutely not. Hitler inarguably had to be stopped, if we were to preserve any real sense of humanity for the entire human race. There is no modern-day equivelant of Hitler, though.

The only countries building new weapons are either the same ones that fought the second world war which are now largely at peace with one another, regions where there are border clashes such as with Pakistan, Sri Lanka and India, or countries that are attempting to build nuclear weapons because they are run by a spoiled brat who can't tell the differnece between a Nintendo controller and a button that kills everyone. The rest are fighting civil wars and localised skirmishes, and the only arms they have are leftovers from the Cold War that Russia sold to them for a discount.

Well he was stopped with violence, something you claim a few pages back basically solves nothing. Can't have it both ways.

[romanP]

PENATRATOR PENATRATOR:

romanP romanP:

Absolutely not. Hitler inarguably had to be stopped, if we were to preserve any real sense of humanity for the entire human race. There is no modern-day equivelant of Hitler, though.

The only countries building new weapons are either the same ones that fought the second world war which are now largely at peace with one another, regions where there are border clashes such as with Pakistan, Sri Lanka and India, or countries that are attempting to build nuclear weapons because they are run by a spoiled brat who can't tell the differnece between a Nintendo controller and a button that kills everyone. The rest are fighting civil wars and localised skirmishes, and the only arms they have are leftovers from the Cold War that Russia sold to them for a discount.

Well he was stopped with violence, something you claim a few pages back basically solves nothing. Can't have it both ways.

No, you've misunderstood. I said that the ideas of war and terrorism will not be ended with violence. You cannot solve a problem by repeating the actions that caused the problem in the first place.