[andyt]

The usual bullshit about race or not. They are an ethnic group, racism as used these days is prejudice against ethnic or even cultural groups. Anti-semitism is a form of racism, no different than anti-any other ethnic group.

The onus is on Martin to show where Delwin is anti-semitic, since that is what Martin has claimed, but he's dodging and you're helping him Ray. Really want to get hung up on whether Jews are a race?

With Bart calling Palestinians vermin, some of the support we've seen on this forum for ethnic cleansing the Palestinians, who exactly are the racists here? Some of the discussion has dropped to that Palestinians aren't Arabs, as if that makes a difference. Does that make taking their land OK?

This war is between two groups, neither of which wants to live with the other one wanting the same chunk of land. Lots of ethnic hatred on both sides - try saying what each side has said about the other in Canada and see how fast a Human Rights Council calls it racism.

[Delwin]

Yes the point is, he said I am Anti-Jew. I stated that if he is going to call me racist he should back it up. He said"Jews are not a race retard." (dodge) I posted a link indicating that some "geneticists" (not retards) believe they are but that he should then prove I am anti-Jew.

The point is he accused me and needs to back it up and YES you are beside it.

[Delwin]

andyt andyt:

The usual bullshit about race or not. They are an ethnic group, racism as used these days is prejudice against ethnic or even cultural groups. Anti-semitism is a form of racism, no different than anti-any other ethnic group.

The onus is on Martin to show where Delwin is anti-semitic, since that is what Martin has claimed, but he's dodging and you're helping him Ray. Really want to get hung up on whether Jews are a race?

With Bart calling Palestinians vermin, some of the support we've seen on this forum for ethnic cleansing the Palestinians, who exactly are the racists here? Some of the discussion has dropped to that Palestinians aren't Arabs, as if that makes a difference. Does that make taking their land OK?

This war is between two groups, neither of which wants to live with the other one wanting the same chunk of land. Lots of ethnic hatred on both sides - try saying what each side has said about the other in Canada and see how fast a Human Rights Council calls it racism.

Exactly, Ray doesn't know a dodge when he sees it.

[andyt]

$1:

Everybody sees a difficulty in the question of relations between Arabs and Jews. But not everybody sees that there is no solution to this question. No solution! There is a gulf, and nothing can bridge it… We, as a nation, want this country to be ours; the Arabs, as a nation, want this country to be theirs.

$1:

In our political argument abroad, we minimize Arab opposition to us. But let us not ignore the truth among ourselves. I insist on the truth, not out of respect for scientific but political realities. The acknowledgement of this truth leads to inevitable and serious conclusions regarding our work in Palestine… let us not build on the hope the terrorist gangs will get tired. If some get tired, others will replace them.
A people which fights against the usurpation of its land will not tire so easily... it is easier for them to continue the war and not get tired than it is for us... The Palestinian Arabs are not alone. The Syrians are coming to help. From our point of view, they are strangers; in the point of law they are foreigners; but to the Arabs, they are not foreigners at all ... The centre of the war is in Palestine, but its dimensions are much wider. When we say that the Arabs are the aggressors and we defend ourselves — this is only half the truth. As regards our security and life we defend ourselves and our moral and physical position is not bad. We can face the gangs... and were we allowed to mobilize all our forces we would have no doubts about the outcome... But the fighting is only one aspect of the conflict which is in its essence a political one. And politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves. Militarily, it is we who are on the defensive who have the upper hand but in the political sphere they are superior. The land, the villages, the mountains, the roads are in their hands. The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country, while we are still outside. They defend bases which are theirs, which is easier than conquering new bases... let us not think that the terror is a result of Hitler's or Mussolini's propaganda — this helps but the source of opposition is there among the Arabs.

Quotes by David Ben Gurion from Wiki.


Looks like ignoring the truth has become de rigueur.

[andyt]

Delwin Delwin:

Exactly, Ray doesn't know a dodge when he sees it.

Ray has Stockholm syndrome from being on CKA so long.

[raydan]

Delwin Delwin:

Exactly, Ray doesn't know a dodge when he sees it.

Sorry about that. Next time you dodge, I'll ignore it.

[Delwin]

I accept that.

[Goober911]

Tricks Tricks:

Goober911 Goober911:

Settlements expanding,as well no causes there eh.

How many settlements have been built in Gaza since 2005?

Kerist on a Crutch.
You are absolutely brilliant.
West Bank and Jerusalem.

Take a peek.

http://thealmondtreebook.com/about/maps/

http://www.fmep.org/settlement_info/set ... -1972-2006

http://www.fmep.org/maps/settlements-population

[raydan]

andyt andyt:

Delwin Delwin:

Exactly, Ray doesn't know a dodge when he sees it.

Ray has Stockholm syndrome from being on CKA so long.

Do I have to point out that you have more posts than I do?







No need to point out that the number of posts is not necessarily proportional to how long we've been here... I'm dodging.

[Goober911]

Tricks Tricks:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Expanding old ones? Are you for real? Israelis evacuated the cities and settlements they had built during the years of occupation and left Gaza entirely in 2005.
Or to put it bluntly, there are no Israeli settlements in Gaza. How do you expand something that doesn't even exist? Logic dictates that in order to expand their settlements in the Gaza, they'd actually have to have settlements in the Gaza.

I guess those "credible" news sources you link to have been feeding you bullshit for the last decade.

Dammit! I wanted him to find that out for himself. Way to ruin my fun! So glad they know jack shit about this conflict.

Odd how people jump on thinking that Hamas is just focused on Gaza.
Nope- Nothing else going wrong in the rest of the twice promised land.
Yep- I know Fuck All.

[andyt]

raydan raydan:

andyt andyt:

Delwin Delwin:

Exactly, Ray doesn't know a dodge when he sees it.

Ray has Stockholm syndrome from being on CKA so long.

Do I have to point out that you have more posts than I do?







No need to point out that the number of posts is not necessarily proportional to how long we've been here... I'm dodging.

My mind is just stronger than yours, so I'm better able to resist the bullshit. It's not to late, come into the light.

[Goober911]

Delwin Delwin:

The link to the story is there for all to read as you have. Again, I am certainly not the first person to post a news article here.


I answered Tricks' question directly, now I am just curious as to what it has to do with anything at all ?

Seems like it offers zero. Everyone who has followed this thread knows there are no settlements in Gaza, I addressed it 20 pages ago.

He wants to jump in and pretend he knows some secret info, it is common fucking knowledge. I guess he figures in 75 pages no one figured out there was a withdrawal in 2005. So what has he added, he tried for a "Gotcha" moment and it just looks silly to me.

As did I. They think that it is all about Gaza.
I posted old maps and one included settlements in Gaza, which anyone with a scent of intelligence knows that Israel withdrew from.
Some jumped all over that but nary a word on the expansion of settlements in the West Bank which is what the point was.
So much BS defection going on.

[andyt]

Goober911 Goober911:

Tricks Tricks:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Expanding old ones? Are you for real? Israelis evacuated the cities and settlements they had built during the years of occupation and left Gaza entirely in 2005.
Or to put it bluntly, there are no Israeli settlements in Gaza. How do you expand something that doesn't even exist? Logic dictates that in order to expand their settlements in the Gaza, they'd actually have to have settlements in the Gaza.

I guess those "credible" news sources you link to have been feeding you bullshit for the last decade.

Dammit! I wanted him to find that out for himself. Way to ruin my fun! So glad they know jack shit about this conflict.

Odd how people jump on thinking that Hamas is just focused on Gaza.
Nope- Nothing else going wrong in the rest of the twice promised land.
Yep- I know Fuck All.

It goes along with all the other pretzel logic that involved in holding Israel blameless in this conflict. Just typical: "Settlements, what settlements, there are no settlements... Oh, you mean those settlements. Those are completely different settlements, what are you an anti-semite to bring up those settlements? We took those because we need more security for Israel and because Palestinians aren't really Arabs and were just squatting on the land and have no rights."

[BRAH]

CNN Contributor Sees 'Problem' with Iron Dome: It 'Takes Away Hamas's Military Leverage'

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/connor-williams/2014/08/04/cnn-contributor-sees-problem-iron-dome-it-takes-away-hamass-militar#disqus_thread
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The Lame Stream Media is Fucking Retarded!
Germans still love David Haselhoff!

[Goober911]

BRAH BRAH:

CNN Contributor Sees 'Problem' with Iron Dome: It 'Takes Away Hamas's Military Leverage'

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/connor-williams/2014/08/04/cnn-contributor-sees-problem-iron-dome-it-takes-away-hamass-militar#disqus_thread
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The Lame Stream Media is Fucking Retarded!
Germans still love David Haselhoff!

How well will the Dome work if & when the West Bank starts rioting?
If you do not realize that Israel will eventually have to sit down with the PLO, and Hamas, well be ready for the surprise as it is coming.
Smart way would happen before the WB goes up.
Why do you think Israel is pissed that the PLO and Hamas want to stand as 1. Ya really think it is because of some manifesto. Really. Nope.
Takes away Israels divide and conquer.