[kenmore]

I am a supporter of gay right, gay marriage and think that there should be no discrimination based on gender or sexual orientation. However the lyrics to songs that have been historically unchallenged should stay. History is as I say history and cannot or should not be rewritten or altered and that includes lyrics.

[EyeBrock]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Nah, puffs don't like Airborne guys....

Puffs prefer the nice soft air force fellows!

Not every Air Force is as soft as Air Command!

[Refreshed]

You guys are all acting like the song's being banned.

Why aren't any of you complaining about all the other non-explicit versions they play on daytime radio? David Guetta's song Sexy Bitch was changed to Sexy Chick. Gwen Stefani's song Whatcha Waiting For had "ho" edited out. Eminem and other rap music is always being censored. I just downloaded a bunch of music for a friend's kid's MP3 player and had to ensure I got the non-explicit versions.

"Nigger" is considered explicit, no problem. "Chink" is explicit, no problem. "Ho" and "bitch" explicit, no problem. Most other swear or hate words are explicit, no problem. The word "faggot" become's explicit, and you all freak out.

Why don't you guys continue listening to the song on CD or your MP3 player, or on late night or satellite radio, and not wait on pins and needles to be able to hear "faggot" on daytime radio when kids are listening, like it enriches your lives somehow?

[Scape]

Yes they are being censored when they come out, not 25 years later.

[Refreshed]

Scape Scape:

Yes they are being censored when they come out, not 25 years later.

Better late than never.

[raydan]

Yup, we can rename this one too...

[SprCForr]

Refreshed Refreshed:

You guys are all acting like the song's being banned.

Why aren't any of you complaining about all the other non-explicit versions they play on daytime radio? David Guetta's song Sexy Bitch was changed to Sexy Chick. Gwen Stefani's song Whatcha Waiting For had "ho" edited out. Eminem and other rap music is always being censored. I just downloaded a bunch of music for a friend's kid's MP3 player and had to ensure I got the non-explicit versions.

"Nigger" is considered explicit, no problem. "Chink" is explicit, no problem. "Ho" and "bitch" explicit, no problem. Most other swear or hate words are explicit, no problem. The word "faggot" become's explicit, and you all freak out.

Why don't you guys continue listening to the song on CD or your MP3 player, or on late night or satellite radio, and not wait on pins and needles to be able to hear "faggot" on daytime radio when kids are listening, like it enriches your lives somehow?

How do you know we haven't elsewhere, to friends etc? what if this was the issue that broke the camels back? What if this is the start to an anti-censorship trend or an effort to cut the stupid mount of bullshit we face in a day?

Sounds like you haven't any issue with a bureaucrat making a decision on what words you're allowed to hear. You're comfortable with that, fine, I'm not.

[Refreshed]

SprCForr SprCForr:

Sounds like you haven't any issue with a bureaucrat making a decision on what words you're allowed to hear. You're comfortable with that, fine, I'm not.

This isn't a case of a bureaucrat deciding what words I'm allowed to hear.

I know, it feels so good to blame the gooberment, you do it anyway.

What we have here is a private panel established by the Canadian broadcasting industry. It's voluntary. Stations don't even have to be members.

Nobody in government, bureaucrat or politician, is ultimately deciding what words I can hear. I have an Eminem CD here with the word "faggot" in it at least twice, and nobodies knocked on my door about it. I can still listen to it but I wouldn't blast it driving down the street with my windows open nor would I let my nephew listen to it. Are you seeing the difference here?

And I call BS to the straw that broke the camels back. I find it hard to believe people would keep quiet until all of a sudden now. I think deep down, whether people want to admit it or not, or even realize it, some people here don't feel gays deserve the same dignity and respect other demographics do.

[Gunnair]

raydan raydan:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

I've tried claiming I am a hairy lesbian who has a penis!

Forget it, I tried... only later did I find out the woman I picked up was hairier than me.

Did she have a bigger maple leaf too?

[Robair]

Days after the Canadian Broadcast Standards Council ruled the song unfit for radio because of a gay slur in its lyrics, radio stations in Halifax and Edmonton planned to rebel by playing an unedited version of the song on repeat for a full hour.

[Dayseed]

While the song wasn't banned, the Black Eyed Peas certainly re-recorded "Let's Get Retarded" to "Let's Get It Started" to appease criticism.

I really don't see the giant problem with this ruling. While I'm certainly no fan of censorship, I also don't see the argument for allowing gay slurs to be broadcast on the radio. The song is still available unedited in Canada; it's not like CSIS or the RCMP is going to kick down your door to seize it.

And in the context of the song, the narrative tone is one that the singer can't believe some "little faggot with an earring" gets all this fame while he's busting his ass doing real work moving refrigerators. It's context is envy of the money and degredation of the person getting it.

Shifting the context, would you applaud somebody who stood on a soapbox at the mall and called out the "faggots" he saw walking around? Would you feel comfortable listening to him? Granted, it's a far cry from a song I watched a thousand times on MuchMusic because I liked the video to public shouting, but the idea is the same.

I'm a big Soundgarden fan, but I don't think a song like "Big Dumb Sex" should be played on the radio unedited.

Also, it's been edited in other countries for years now.

[Guy_Fawkes]

The Black Eye peas chose to do two recordings though, Snoop Dogg has also done the same. However it is the artists choice to censor himself.

$1:

Shifting the context, would you applaud somebody who stood on a soapbox at the mall and called out the "faggots" he saw walking around? Would you feel comfortable listening to him? Granted, it's a far cry from a song I watched a thousand times on MuchMusic because I liked the video to public shouting, but the idea is the same.

Again we are talking about art, not someone yelling obscenities.


Now should images of that statue be banned from the public eye?

[Zipperfish]

Refreshed Refreshed:

This isn't a case of a bureaucrat deciding what words I'm allowed to hear.

I know, it feels so good to blame the gooberment, you do it anyway.

What we have here is a private panel established by the Canadian broadcasting industry. It's voluntary. Stations don't even have to be members.

Nobody in government, bureaucrat or politician, is ultimately deciding what words I can hear. I have an Eminem CD here with the word "faggot" in it at least twice, and nobodies knocked on my door about it. I can still listen to it but I wouldn't blast it driving down the street with my windows open nor would I let my nephew listen to it. Are you seeing the difference here?

And I call BS to the straw that broke the camels back. I find it hard to believe people would keep quiet until all of a sudden now. I think deep down, whether people want to admit it or not, or even realize it, some people here don't feel gays deserve the same dignity and respect other demographics do.

I've carefully considered your argument and determined that you are wrong. Please adjust your opinion accordingly.

[raydan]

I'm going to complain the next time they play Othello here in Québec.
One thing's for certain, I'm not bringing my grandsons to see it.

OTHELLO
She's, like a liar, gone to burning hell:
... 'Twas I that kill'd her.

EMILIA
O, the more angel she,
And you the blacker devil!

[andyt]

Well, Merchant of Venice definitely has to go. Let's just ban everything, and then allow the censors to carefully consider each piece of art whether it might possibly offend someone now or in the foreseeable future. If yes, then it's outta there.

Samuel R Delany wrote that artists and criminals are the most important people in society, because they challenge it. (I'm paraphrasing). I've never been able to quite swallow that, but it makes you think - ie it challenges you.