[PostFactum]

For sure, because that's conservative nation, strong and strict)) For sure they will fail in their "nazionality" the world is making new rules. multicultural society has failed now, but later I thing it will probably exist.

[andyt]

Andem Andem:

$1:

if you have any examples of succesful multi-ethnic states, i would love to hear about them. the only one i can think of is switzerland. which leads me to believe this is the exception, not the rule.

I wouldn't exactly call Switzerland a successful multi-ethnic state. The Swiss have enough problems themselves and the various ethnic groups don't exactly mix. In Switzerland, you're a citizen of your community and then a citizen of your canton and THEN a citizen of Switzerland.

I have to admit that the Swiss have pulled it off a lot better than the Belgians!

And what huge disparities of ethnicity (sarcasm). Just composed of the people of the surrounding countries, plus some remnant of an older group. Look at Switzerland banning minarets to see how happy they are about the Muslims in their midst.

[andyt]

CommanderSock CommanderSock:

Demian_164 Demian_164:

you are so completely wrong. multi-ethnic states do nothing but disentegrate. look at any empire in human history. soviet union, balkans, austria hungary etc etc etc etc. it almost always ends in bloodshed (as it did with the jews in europe). blacks were brough to the united states as slaves and remained as 2nd class citizens. race in the united states has ALWAYS been one of the countries most divisive issues. a country with only one ethnic group will escape all of this race baiting automatically!

Not true. Most empires in history have been multi-ethnic. Mughal, USA, Rome, all mutli-ethnic. Most Empires collapse due to economic decline and corruption, not ethnic squabbles.

They were multi ethnic because they conquered other ethnicities. The original conquering ethnicity retained power. In Rome, I believe only Romans could be citizens and had more rights than others. Mughals also ran the show, as did the Europeans in US. China, since for ever, the Han run things. If that's your idea of a good multicultural state, one where one ethnicity is the dominant force, the in group, that doesn't sound that wonderful to me. Better to have less multikulti in that case, and a stronger country. Even in Canada, thank God, the Europeans still dominate. I'm not sure a true multicultural state, where power is not based on ethnicity and every body gets along just great is possible. Many of our immigrants, only too happy to cry racism, harbor racist ideas that would make the average white bread Canadian's hair stand on end. We're just too wrapped up in being nice to be willing to see it.

[desertdude]

Brampton Boy Russell Peters said it best



Hopefully then all this squabbling will be over.

[andyt]

I agree with you. What we need is a breeding program that involves white men with colored women - best way to get there.

[EyeBrock]

As long as people coming to western countries are encouraged to do their own thing instead of truly becoming a part of the country, culture and society they have emigrated to, this debate will continue. Even with crass humour in video form.

[desertdude]

Crass ! I think I'm extremely offended by that. I think Russell Peters is the best stand up in the bussiness today. Went to see him live when he was here, the crowd was in absolutel tatters. And I think hes a brill guy, after the show takes the time to come out and have a chat with who ever bothered to stay behind !

You Sir, have no sense of humour !

[EyeBrock]

He's funny, but in a Bernard Manning/Chubby Brown kind of way.

[andyt]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

He's funny, but in a Bernard Manning/Chubby Brown kind of way.

I don't know who those guys are, but Russell is typically Canadian. A little bit of insult to each group, 'cause he's gotta have a bit of edge, but overall, pretty beige.

Actually I'd love to see a white guy do exactly what Russel does - the howld of outrage would be incredible.

Does Russel go after FN's? Muslims? Mostly I've heard Chinese can't drive, white men sound like donkeys, East Indians have a funny accent, etc.

[EyeBrock]

They are of similar ilk in the UK, but white.

I'm not a fan of racial humour that can only be uttered by a particular race without causing offence.

A white guy saying some of Russell's jokes would be accused of racism. The whole double-standards thing bothers me.

[desertdude]

andyt andyt:

Does Russel go after FN's? Muslims?

FN ? Whats that

And also If you notice he does diss religion but he does go after arabs ( Ok muslims )aswell



And he did this routine here in Dubai aswell

[Curtman]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

our Native populations are in crisis mode with regards to alcohol, domestic violence, poverty etc. Too often these issues are ignored because of political correctness or the notion that the nasty white-man is the root of all their problems.

I don't think they're ignored because of political correctness, they're ignored because nobody knows what to do about them. Building more jails doesn't help. Alcohol prohibition doesn't help. You can't throw money at the problem to make it go away.

If it was an immigration issue, we could all just get on the boat and go back to Europe or wherever we came from. Back in those days, they didn't call it 'illegal immigration', they called it 'white people'.

[BartSimpson]

desertdude desertdude:

FN ? Whats that

FN = 'First Nations'. It's the politically correct way the Canadians refer to their aboriginals who frequently just call themselves 'Indians'.

[andyt]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

desertdude desertdude:

FN ? Whats that

FN = 'First Nations'. It's the politically correct way the Canadians refer to their aboriginals who frequently just call themselves 'Indians' but get pissed if white people call them that. Kinda like African Americans/Niggers in the US.

[EyeBrock]

Curtman Curtman:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

our Native populations are in crisis mode with regards to alcohol, domestic violence, poverty etc. Too often these issues are ignored because of political correctness or the notion that the nasty white-man is the root of all their problems.

I don't think they're ignored because of political correctness, they're ignored because nobody knows what to do about them. Building more jails doesn't help. Alcohol prohibition doesn't help. You can't throw money at the problem to make it go away.

If it was an immigration issue, we could all just get on the boat and go back to Europe or wherever we came from. Back in those days, they didn't call it 'illegal immigration', they called it 'white people'.

Throwing money at the problem hasn't helped at all for the fifty or so years we have been doing it and I'd say that PC is a major factor in ignoring Native law-breaking in Ontario and letting Band leaders get more pay than provincial premiers.

As for immigrants, in Ontario the Mohawks have been here less time than the white settlers. They came up here with Haldimand in the 1790's.